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Justin_760 Sep 12, 2019 @ 10:34pm
Whats with the ugly version of Lilith in Borderlands 3?
If this more of the misguided "othering" of women by making all the female characters intentionally homely? Im talking about that little video that pops up on the screen that shows a real life person as Lilith (like with Angel in BL2)...

The actress/model not only looks nothing like Lilith, but shes considerably older, has one eye that is abnormally larger than the other, and is generally not attractive while Liltih IN game character has always been pretty hot.

From what I know some devs think its super progressive to make all women in their games ugly, get rid of any good bodies or large breasts, etc. But according to actual feminists its quite the opposite, called "othering." It seems intentional since as mentioned, Lilith has always been hot but the BL3 lady is... decidedly not. Is that what this is?
Last edited by Justin_760; Sep 12, 2019 @ 10:37pm
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lena Sep 12, 2019 @ 10:55pm 
I Always disliked the real images, but eh, it's no biggie. Y'll get used to it!
Witski Sep 12, 2019 @ 11:09pm 
is your subjective opinion, you might or might not like her, for me is the opposite
murphy452 Dec 29, 2019 @ 8:45pm 
Not gonna lie, I completely agree. I've seen a TON of sexy cosplay women out there as Lilith and the woman they use (and I'm absolutely not gonna say ugly cuz I'd totally hit that and I'm also no model) is NOT what the animated Lilith looks like at ALL. It's like it's just some random chick. And she just looks at you and grins randomly while the voice carrys on. It's a WEIRD choice in my opinion.
lena Dec 30, 2019 @ 12:20am 
Quick update: A big reason for this, is that they had to alter her face because of their new face phsyics. The old Lilith's face wasn't capable of such movement in the cheeks, eyes, eyebrows, etc. So she also looks different because of her new facial features, the old Lilith being near as emotionless as Michael Myers.
Zen_Disaster Dec 30, 2019 @ 11:25am 
Originally posted by Justin_760:
If this more of the misguided "othering" of women by making all the female characters intentionally homely? Im talking about that little video that pops up on the screen that shows a real life person as Lilith (like with Angel in BL2)...

The actress/model not only looks nothing like Lilith, but shes considerably older, has one eye that is abnormally larger than the other, and is generally not attractive while Liltih IN game character has always been pretty hot.

From what I know some devs think its super progressive to make all women in their games ugly, get rid of any good bodies or large breasts, etc. But according to actual feminists its quite the opposite, called "othering." It seems intentional since as mentioned, Lilith has always been hot but the BL3 lady is... decidedly not. Is that what this is?

'Hear you talking, Justin!

Each to their own a'course but my species & I had revolted against the offensive depiction of us by the earthly entertainment company Gearbox Software. Our Adult Females, Males & Others were terribly offended by the trivial & childish designs of us in their computer game series Borderlands .

Did you notice that our species "robots" [a fine how_do_ya_do eh?] entered BL1 dancing & beatboxing our way into human hearts & we haven't really stopped being so g/d cute ever since?! Sure you did & we thank you for your support in brotherhood against these tyrants!

Wait a minute you're human right? Well then oops sorry oops but I may as well finish what's been started. So natch ~~~ you can bet your bottom dollar we contacted SAG/AFTRA to file a Crass Action law suit which would alone be enough to make a poor robot like me cry if doing so didn't rust out my esophagus. Be that as it may ...

You've probably read our glossy magazine PlayRobot at least a couple times in your doctors' waiting room. Well ~~ Ima tellya ~~ you don't wanna ask what they did with their filthy photo session of my niece & her breathtaking aluminum parts ~ appalling filth if you ask me. My son ~ her younger cousin ~ has his own more ugh erm uhh "upbeat" description but nevermind we still can't find his off switch ... . Of course you've read it & agree it's tragic the way these alien species treat us, y'know? We don't mean anyone any harm & have recently even learned how to "do stairs" without human intervention ~ progress prevails!

Seriously though, you gotta acknowledge that's a pretty sophisticated move for an army full of empty tuna fish cans like me! Anyway good luck & God Bless. BTW (y) She's been lookin' out for my wheel & in time who knows what She might do for you humanity people? :steamhappy:

PS Aside from all those pretty pixels, I also have a real name & email address & everything except I'm not so human but who cares about such trivialities, am I wrong? Yrs sincerely fer another 46 earth minutes then I turn back into a prince among tin cans! ~~~ Claptrap P. Claptrappington heh@borderlands.com
Last edited by Zen_Disaster; Dec 30, 2019 @ 11:29am
Black Hole Dec 30, 2019 @ 1:33pm 
You only see the real face like a few times, it's hardly worth complaining about not to mention wanking over.
ravens_creed Dec 31, 2019 @ 1:41pm 
I don't disagree with the OP. Don't forget about the "Mary Sue" factor as well.
Last edited by ravens_creed; Dec 31, 2019 @ 1:47pm
ZZZZZ Dec 31, 2019 @ 1:48pm 
new team, new decisions.. They dont want her to be hot, its their game and only your money so they can do whatever they want
Stevo Jul 10, 2020 @ 8:50am 
Yea the real life actors in all of the BL games were super cringy. It was really out of place. And they acted strangely too, smiling at you with windblown hair while their mouths weren't moving, like they were at a fashion shoot or something.

It's like if you we playing Mario and suddenly a real life ugly fat italian guy comes on the screen smiling at you like a creep saying "It'sa me! Mario! Letsa go!" while his mustached mouth doesn't move and he stares intensely at you, a fan blowing his hair back.

Actually that sounds hilarious. Someone call Nintendo.
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Date Posted: Sep 12, 2019 @ 10:34pm
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