Scorn

[TheRedGuy]

Why so many people say scorn is not worth or useless because it's the capstone the harmony tree or why?

[Nodoka]

Normally you only go as far as getting the res with phaselock in the harmony tree.
We alredy have a very reliable source of slagging from ruin in the cataclysm tree. Now you combine ruin and sub-sequence from the motion skill tree and you have a very reliable and good way to apply slag without the use of having slag on any of your guns. And since we get very high cooldown reduction from our base gear and several skill points its enough to keep most things slagged and have a VERY low cooldown on phaselock.

Thats why scorn is complete garbage. :)

[Bringoutyerded]

I've found that it's not a bad skill to have, but I ultimately I figure that there are better ways to spend the points rather than to try to reach it when in UVHM.

I'd rather make sure that I reach Ruin as a capstone, as well as Converge and Subsequence in the leftmost Motion tree.

Scorn is slow and/or if your aim and timing is rusty, you'll miss quite often. I'm often using either a Slagga/Florentine or Magic Missiles for slag, all of which I find are more dependable sources of slag, and don't have an 18 second cooldown.

[Nodoka]

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=953936788
This is imo how you wanna build Maya for max damage.
Wrecks faces in op8

[TheRedGuy]

I'm already in op levels and scorn works rather well for my build.

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by Mr. Wong:

I'm already in op levels and scorn works rather well for my build.

If you invest that far down in the harmony skill you are wasting points that could have been spent on more important things.

[TheRedGuy]

I get it but I'm tired of the same beehawk but for raiding I use it as for mobbing chain reaction boosted by the blurred trickster mod kills most of them fairly quickly.

[Nodoka]

Originally posted by Mr. Wong:

I get it but I'm tired of the same beehawk but for raiding I use it as for mobbing chain reaction boosted by the blurred trickster mod kills most of them fairly quickly.

Still a pointless skill to have since you can slag with phaselock, magic missile or even just randomly using a slagga for it.
I dont see the point of this thread, you got your answer on why its not worth investing into it. Move on or keep using it

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

I don't use scorn myself. The one good thing that I can say about it is that it can be used while in FFYL. That can save some precious seconds in making sure that your target is slagged. The other good thing is that it blows up barrels. It would be a lot more viable with a lower cool down time.

On the other hand, I think Ruin is way over rated in UVHM. In TVHM, Ruin makes a big difference because slag doesn't last very long and the DOT damage actually does damage. When Maya can combine Ruin with Converge around level 45, it is a game changer. However, when you get into UVHM, the DOT damage is fairly weak to the point where enemies can regen health faster than you can damage them. So Ruin just becomes a convenient way to slag an enemy. Not what I would call a game changer capstone.

This is build that can alternate with the Trickster class mods or a Legendairy Siren. I use the Mirrored Trickster mod with a +5 Kinetic Reflection, +4 Chain Reaction, +4 Life Tap.

http://bl2skills.com/siren.html#554501050053055101101540510500
or
http://bl2skills.com/siren.html#554501005153055101101540510400

With Chain Reaction and Converge and a decent slagging weapon, you really don't need to have either Ruin or Scorn. I reset my game at OP7 and did the Scarlet dlc to get the Sandhawk and Pimpernel. The game gave me a slag Pimpernel. WTF do I need slag gun when I have Ruin? What I ended up doing was keeping the slag pimp and getting rid of Ruin.