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CobaltNinja Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:34am
Not Dying As Zer0
For those of you who don't know, Zer0 is the name of the character labeled as the Assassin. Assassin class. OK?

Anyways I'm finding that I am dying a lot. Any tips to improve my survivability, such as shields n' skills?
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ElysiuM Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:37am 
Originally posted by CobaltNinja:
For those of you who don't know, Zer0 is the name of the character labeled as the Assassin. Assassin class. OK?

Anyways I'm finding that I am dying a lot. Any tips to improve my survivability, such as shields n' skills?
Maybe tell us ur lvl and equipment first
Talos Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:44am 
Zero is a long range class. ZerO uses sniper the most. Maliwan, Dahl, and especially Jakobs is extremely good. Try to hit more head shot from long range. And use shotgun if they come close. ZerO doesn't need pistols as much, he needs sniper, shotgun and smgs the mostm
CobaltNinja Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:45am 
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Originally posted by CobaltNinja:
For those of you who don't know, Zer0 is the name of the character labeled as the Assassin. Assassin class. OK?

Anyways I'm finding that I am dying a lot. Any tips to improve my survivability, such as shields n' skills?
Maybe tell us ur lvl and equipment first

Level 50

GUNZ:

Refill Subcompact MG (Tediore SMG)
Critical Conference Call (Shock)
Rustler's Bushwack (high damage, high pellets, Jakobs)
Night Pitchfork (Corrosion)

Shield: Purple Supersized Shield with Capacity and Recharge Rate pretty close about 24k, and a Recharge Delay of 1.8 seconds

Disturbed Stalker Class Mod (+Pistol Fire Rate/Mag Size, +Shield Recharge, +5 Rising Shot, +4 Follow Through, +3 Counter Strike)

Lobbed Slag Transfusion (6 Child grenades with about 19k damage each)

Tenacity Relic (+24% FFYL Time, +110% SW HP)

yeah the class mod isn't the best but i couldn't find anything else that's good.
Skill Tree: http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#050531400050505105510000000000
Last edited by CobaltNinja; Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:45am
Talos Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:46am 
Seeing your stats, your pretty stacked. Just engage them from long range and you'll be fine. Remember enemy can't attack you when they don't see you
ElysiuM Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:47am 
Originally posted by LeSpy:
Zero is a long range class. ZerO uses sniper the most. Maliwan, Dahl, and especially Jakobs is extremely good. Try to hit more head shot from long range. And use shotgun if they come close. ZerO doesn't need pistols as much, he needs sniper, shotgun and smgs the mostm
Thats kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what ur saying...its totally up to u how u want to play him...he can exceed as a melee based build in close combat or even without...
CobaltNinja Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:48am 
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Originally posted by LeSpy:
Zero is a long range class. ZerO uses sniper the most. Maliwan, Dahl, and especially Jakobs is extremely good. Try to hit more head shot from long range. And use shotgun if they come close. ZerO doesn't need pistols as much, he needs sniper, shotgun and smgs the mostm
Thats kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what ur saying...its totally up to u how u want to play him...he can exceed as a melee based build in close combat or even without...

Yeah but most endgame builds end up using the Sniper tree.

Originally posted by LeSpy:
Seeing your stats, your pretty stacked. Just engage them from long range and you'll be fine. Remember enemy can't attack you when they don't see you

Yeah but then when I shoot them they immediately notice and start coming for me. Landing a few shots or two is kinda difficult for me.

Ooh! forgot to mention. I can level up to 61.
Last edited by CobaltNinja; Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:50am
Talos Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:51am 
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Originally posted by LeSpy:
Zero is a long range class. ZerO uses sniper the most. Maliwan, Dahl, and especially Jakobs is extremely good. Try to hit more head shot from long range. And use shotgun if they come close. ZerO doesn't need pistols as much, he needs sniper, shotgun and smgs the mostm
Thats kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what ur saying...its totally up to u how u want to play him...he can exceed as a melee based build in close combat or even without...
Your bending the laws of ZerO. He is a assassin that exeeds at long range. But in a sense he is a strong melee character because he is "ninja" but unless you deploy a hologram in the middle of the field without gettjng pegged in the ass it would be pretty hard. I'm level 71 in my ZerO I think I know my tactics.
ElysiuM Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:52am 
Originally posted by CobaltNinja:
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Maybe tell us ur lvl and equipment first

Level 50

GUNZ:

Refill Subcompact MG (Tediore SMG)
Critical Conference Call (Shock)
Rustler's Bushwack (high damage, high pellets, Jakobs)
Night Pitchfork (Corrosion)

Shield: Purple Supersized Shield with Capacity and Recharge Rate pretty close, and a Recharge Delay of 1.8 seconds

Disturbed Stalker Class Mod (+Pistol Fire Rate/Mag Size, +Shield Recharge, +5 Rising Shot, +4 Follow Through, +3 Counter Strike)

Lobbed Slag Transfusion (6 Child grenades with about 19k damage each)

Tenacity Relic (+24% FFYL Time, +110% SW HP)

yeah the class mod isn't the best but i couldn't find anything else that's good.
Skill Tree: http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#050531400050505105510000000000
Looks like u got a lot of mediocre equipment...id definitely say one big weak spot is ur shield....using an antagonist shield will boost ur survivability extremely...u could also equip a bee shield and go for max damage output but ull have to play a lot with cover...dude ur skill tree...id what direction ur going but it doesnt look like melee...spec into those critical hit and damage boost spec in the sniper root...also i suggest removing two fang since its pretty useless...take all points from precision....its pretty useless unless ur using something with super low accuracy on longer range which isnt ideal anyways
ElysiuM Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:54am 
Originally posted by LeSpy:
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Thats kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ what ur saying...its totally up to u how u want to play him...he can exceed as a melee based build in close combat or even without...
Your bending the laws of ZerO. He is a assassin that exeeds at long range. But in a sense he is a strong melee character because he is "ninja" but unless you deploy a hologram in the middle of the field without gettjng pegged in the ass it would be pretty hard. I'm level 71 in my ZerO I think I know my tactics.
Seems u dont... with the right eqiup u can also tank alot...im a lvl 72 op5 Zer0
Last edited by ElysiuM; Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:54am
Charmander787 Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by CobaltNinja:
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Maybe tell us ur lvl and equipment first

Level 50

GUNZ:

Refill Subcompact MG (Tediore SMG)
Critical Conference Call (Shock)
Rustler's Bushwack (high damage, high pellets, Jakobs)
Night Pitchfork (Corrosion)

Shield: Purple Supersized Shield with Capacity and Recharge Rate pretty close about 24k, and a Recharge Delay of 1.8 seconds

Disturbed Stalker Class Mod (+Pistol Fire Rate/Mag Size, +Shield Recharge, +5 Rising Shot, +4 Follow Through, +3 Counter Strike)

Lobbed Slag Transfusion (6 Child grenades with about 19k damage each)

Tenacity Relic (+24% FFYL Time, +110% SW HP)

yeah the class mod isn't the best but i couldn't find anything else that's good.
Skill Tree: http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#050531400050505105510000000000
problem is that you are playing some sort of a gun zero

if you want some good gameplay, I recommend you switch over to a sniper zero playthrough; most enemies die too quickly to even touch you

Also I recommend you get an absorb shield as it allows zer0 to take more shots (Later get an antagonist)
Talos Jun 23, 2017 @ 7:57am 
Originally posted by ElysiuM:
Originally posted by LeSpy:
Your bending the laws of ZerO. He is a assassin that exeeds at long range. But in a sense he is a strong melee character because he is "ninja" but unless you deploy a hologram in the middle of the field without gettjng pegged in the ass it would be pretty hard. I'm level 71 in my ZerO I think I know my tactics.
Seems u dont... with the right eqiup u can also tank alot...im a lvl 72 op5 Zer0
Everyone has different tactic I'm just pointing out there my tactic was successful and he should consider using it. I didn't force him or anything. Just consider.
ElysiuM Jun 23, 2017 @ 8:14am 
So for a non melee based build i recommend u have all these skills http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#505051050050000000000000000000

....with the other u can play around a bit more depending on what ur using...if u dont play the pimpernel (if u use pimpernel its a good idea unspeccing from velocity) i suggest using this build for lvl 50: http://bl2skills.com/assassin.html#505051550150055003000000000000 .... u now deal way more damage especially with critical hits...use deception alot to maximize ur damage...u could u different kinds of shields with this build but id suggest the Antagonist for aggressiv play and the bee if ur playing more defensively/with cover...ull be dealing a massive amount of damage that way using sniper rifles mainly....as for relics anything that shortens down ur cooldown rate is best, but u can also go for gun damage modifying relics...for nades i u magic missiles to slag my opponents but u could also u Transfusion nades or a chain lightning for healing....if u use the chain lightning ull need a grognozzle or ruby tho but i recommend u have one of those anyways to heal urself quickly
Last edited by ElysiuM; Jun 23, 2017 @ 8:20am
NouH Jun 23, 2017 @ 8:37am 
My first Playthrough with Zero was a Melee focused one, Seriously it was PERFECT, nearly impossible to die, just keep in mind that its better to use the Ability for escape rather than for killing in itself.
raye. Jun 23, 2017 @ 8:57am 
With your class mod, sounds like maybe a pistol zer0 might be interesting for you.

https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/build-pistolero-zero/100643

It's pretty fun. If you can't get an antagonist shield, which is a seraph item, get an adaptive shield...would be helpful. When I started uvhm, I used a green turtle shield for several levels, lol. It works.
HEY Jun 23, 2017 @ 9:09am 
I have a op8 melee zero, so only thing I can say for you is get the grog for overall healing and get some good snipers, I only know 2, the layuda and the pimpernel.
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