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Nodoka Jul 14, 2018 @ 3:46am
6 hours of bee farming
I only picked up perfect amp dmg ones but sadly none spawned with inflammable. >.<
There should be around 45 bee shield in this loot pile alot of them are overlapping.
Last edited by Nodoka; Jul 18, 2018 @ 4:58am
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Zen_Disaster Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:00am 
45 Bees?! And you farmed these legit from Hellquist or Treants with no third-party software installed? Well if you say so, I'm a believer. Two things: (1) the probability of 45 of them without getting a single Inflammable from Treants is quite low. If from Hellquist you can farm 45,000,000 of them without encountering a single Inflammable. Treants are a much pref farm for the better Bees. (2) dropping on that floor or worse the nextdoor floor inside the Fast Travel room can be a dangerous move as those floors can easily tear and your goods will disappear into c^ber hell. Cheers!
HiTmAn Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:08am 
its very hard to get double maliwan i farmed for week with my op8 zero in hope i get grounded no luck..i got corrosive one witch is not most useful xd
Nodoka Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:10am 
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
45 Bees?! And you farmed these legit from Hellquist or Treants with no third-party software installed? Well if you say so, I'm a believer. Two things: (1) the probability of 45 of them without getting a single Inflammable from Treants is quite low. If from Hellquist you can farm 45,000,000 of them without encountering a single Inflammable. Treants are a much pref farm for the better Bees. (2) dropping on that floor or worse the nextdoor floor inside the Fast Travel room can be a dangerous move as those floors can easily tear and your goods will disappear into c^ber hell. Cheers!
Yeah exclusively treants I dont use any third party software on my 1 life characters.
The only thing I do use is gibbed to transfer items into the bank once my bank is full.
Right now im working on farming every single item in the game hence why I need to use gibbed to transfer items into the bank.

I'm totally not a hoarder!!! :P

Originally posted by HiTmAn:
its very hard to get double maliwan i farmed for week with my op8 zero in hope i get grounded no luck..i got corrosive one witch is not most useful xd
I strongly believe that corrosive bee is the best version.
Last edited by Nodoka; Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:11am
Tesarion Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:51am 
got one a few weeks ago with inflammable, took me quite a bit but it was worth it ^^
Nodoka Jul 14, 2018 @ 4:55am 
Originally posted by Tesarion:
got one a few weeks ago with inflammable, took me quite a bit but it was worth it ^^
gz but unless its double maliwan its not worth it.
cs.money nebs0s3 Jul 14, 2018 @ 9:35am 
I've farmed 1000+ bee shields for the past 3 weeks and still no perfect bee. Did you use the community patch? I've gotten 150 bee shields today only 1 had maliwan battery : (
Nodoka Jul 14, 2018 @ 9:35am 
Originally posted by nebs0s3:
I've farmed 1000+ bee shields for the past 3 weeks and still no perfect bee. Did you use the community patch? I've gotten 150 bee shields today only 1 had maliwan battery : (
No I only play 1 life characters and as far as I know UCP is not allowed.
Even if it was allowed im very against UCP.
Last edited by Nodoka; Jul 14, 2018 @ 9:36am
Cursed Hawkins Jul 14, 2018 @ 9:59am 
When I saw Bee I thought the OP was talking about this.
http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_Bee
Sierra Jul 14, 2018 @ 10:28am 
Originally posted by Lv. 99 Nodoka #3:
Originally posted by nebs0s3:
I've farmed 1000+ bee shields for the past 3 weeks and still no perfect bee. Did you use the community patch? I've gotten 150 bee shields today only 1 had maliwan battery : (
No I only play 1 life characters and as far as I know UCP is not allowed.
Even if it was allowed im very against UCP.
Why are you against UCP? No hate, just wonder.
Nodoka Jul 14, 2018 @ 10:50am 
Originally posted by Nak_WTP:
Originally posted by Lv. 99 Nodoka #3:
No I only play 1 life characters and as far as I know UCP is not allowed.
Even if it was allowed im very against UCP.
Why are you against UCP? No hate, just wonder.
the game is alredy easy enough, no need to make it even easier.
bastien Jul 16, 2018 @ 2:54am 
Originally posted by Lv. 99 Nodoka:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1440668326

I only picked up perfect amp dmg ones but sadly none spawned with inflammable. >.<
There should be around 45 bee shield in this loot pile alot of them are overlapping.
I am not sure i understand correctly : did you get 45 double maliwan (ie battery and capacitor) bees in 6 hours ? If so, how many treants did you kill for that ?
Starbug Jul 16, 2018 @ 12:30pm 
Gibbed is awesome! You can spawn more things on the floor than you can fit in your backpack to begin with. And you can easily say you "found" a Cobra and all sorts of rare loot. Nobody will be any the wiser!

In case anyone wants to play with you and risk an exposure, you can just say you never play coop, unless with trusted friends (other cheaters and vac ban sporting profiles). That way your secret is safe. Appease doubters by showing your huge hour count. Most people have never even heard of afk idling and will be totes convinced.

To paraphrase in internet meme-speak : SEEEMS LEGIT
Mylar Jul 16, 2018 @ 10:32pm 
6 hours of Weisenheimer farming, all Diamonds. Disappointing. I was hoping for the Shenanigans prefix. (sad trombone) :IMCRYING:

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/957462736270347686/67899DD6829D63E4C4D382EE2F6C64466680A222/
Bringoutyerded Jul 16, 2018 @ 10:36pm 
Lv. 99 Nodoka: I've got to say that I agree with Starbug here. I've never spent six consecutive hours farming for the Bee. But not only is the average rate of 8min per Bee shield sustained over six hours via the Treants at the Forest spectacular on its own in the vanilla game, but combine that with your two statements that there are around 45 in the pile, not to mention that all are perfect?

If you only "picked up perfect amp dmg ones", that would mean that your drop rate per minute was even shorter than 8 minutes per, maybe even much shorter. I'm sure that I've had Bees drop at this rate before, especially given three to four productive Treants in the first half of the map and the possibility of multiple drops per run. But sustained over six hours? With such a high proportion of perfect parts?

I've never seen perfect Bees drop consecutively (that might just be me though), or at least certainly at the rate indicated over such a long time.

Just to make a point....if you found 45 perfect drops, and assuming that perfect models are found 50% of the time a drop occurs (I'd hazard a guess that this is being hugely generous), that would mean you farmed 90 Bees over a six hour period, 45 being perfect. That would be a Bee every 4 minutes, sustained over six hours. Wow.

If that had happened to me just over the space of one hour, I'd start recording myself as a means of pinching myself to remind me that it actually happened.

It's my experience that even if you only farm the first half of the map to save time (not extending the run to the orc camp and pool), 8 minutes per, sustained, likely much faster, and sustained over such a long period of time...hmmmm.

I don't know. If I read perhaps just one of those statements on their own I might not be looking at this with a jaded eye. Or perhaps I've just never been as fortunate in my years of play here.
bastien Jul 17, 2018 @ 3:05am 
I would like to add some facts.

Regarding the double maliwan Bee, using the full console enabled by the UCP, it is possible to compute the probability for a bee to have Maliwan capacitor and battery.
The commands are :
obj dump GD_Shields.Battery.PartsList_Battery_Impact_Legendary
obj dump GD_Shields.Capacitor.PartsList_Capacitor_Impact_Legendary

Given the weights, the probabilities are : 1.64% (= 1 / 61) to get a Maliwan battery and 1.56% (= 1 / 64) to get a specific Maliwan capacitor.
So the probability to get double Maliwan parts is 0.077% (= 3 / (61*64) # 1 / 1300).
Which is consistent with the post #6 stating that out of 1k+ bees none was a double Maliwan.

As the drop rate for the Treants is 10%, the probability for a Treant to drop a double Maliwan Bee is therefore 0.0077% (= 1 / (1300*10)).
It means that, on average, to get 45 double Maliwan Bees, you have to kill 585k (= 45*10*1300) Treants.
In 6 hours that would imply killing 27 Treants per second. Quite a feat.


So the OP must have been quite lucky, but how lucky ?

Let's assume that you can kill 6 Treants per minute, which is quite high imo but whatever.
In 6 hours that would give 2160 (= 6*60*6 ) potential drops.
As the probabilty for a double Maliwan Bee drop is 1/13k, using basic maths[onlinestatbook.com] you can compute the chances to get at least k double Maliwan Bees :
  • 15.3% ( = 1 / 6.5 ) chances to get at least one
  • 1.24% ( = 1 / 81 ) chances to get at least two
  • 0.067% (= 1 / 1.5k ) chances to get at least three
  • 0.0028% (= 1 / 36k ) chances to get at least four
  • 0.0001% (= 1 / 1.1M ) chances to get at least five
  • ...
The chances to get 7+ such drops are already around 1 out of 1.7 billion ...
Unfortunately i don't have the software to compute the chances to get 45 drops.


TL;DR :
Unless i made a huge mistake, the chances to get 45 double Maliwan bees in 6 hours are so infinitesimal that it's safe to conclude that this is a prank.
Which in turn sheds light on the OP's recent posts.

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