Headhunter DLCs Level Scaling

[YamaKasin]

Hey all, we've finished the main campaign and jumped straight into TVHM to start doing the DLCs with a proper level scaling for more challenge and better loot. It worked just fine for all the major DLCs, but in the Headhunters the level cap seems to be stuck at around 35, even though we're playing TVHM.

Is it always like this? Does the level cap increase on UVHM? We've only finished first two Headhunter DLCs so far.

[Renfrew]

Doing DLCs in TVHM is a bad idea, if you overlevel you'll softlock your game and make it extremely difficult to progress when you try to do UVHM. UVHM scales to your current level, but TVHM only gives level 50 gear max. The obvious problem, as an example, is if you have level 50 gear and you are level 55 you'll be trying to kill level 55 enemies with level 50 gear, which is ridiculously difficult. In UVHM any non-major enemy has HP regen furthermore the HP values are double that of TVHM and quadruple that of Normal Mode.

The general strategy everyone employs is:
Normal Mode Story -> All DLC and side missions on Normal Mode -> TVHM story -> UVHM story -> farming to max level -> UVHM DLC and side missions

[YamaKasin]

We're not that interested in maxing out, we just wanted to see the whole content while still keeping it challenging for us. So we're a bit disappointed now, cause those small Headhunter DLCs seem to be fun, but way too easy for us without proper scaling.

Thanks for the tip though! Will keep that in mind.

[Justuค็็็็็็็s[FIN]]

Originally posted by ꧁Renfrew꧂:

Doing DLCs in TVHM is a bad idea, if you overlevel you'll softlock your game and make it extremely difficult to progress when you try to do UVHM. UVHM scales to your current level, but TVHM only gives level 50 gear max. The obvious problem, as an example, is if you have level 50 gear and you are level 55 you'll be trying to kill level 55 enemies with level 50 gear, which is ridiculously difficult. In UVHM any non-major enemy has HP regen furthermore the HP values are double that of TVHM and quadruple that of Normal Mode.

The general strategy everyone employs is:
Normal Mode Story -> All DLC and side missions on Normal Mode -> TVHM story -> UVHM story -> farming to max level -> UVHM DLC and side missions

Talk about ♥♥♥♥ game design where you'll be punished if you play the game.

[Renfrew]

UVHM and higher than level 50 was never intended to be part of the game, it was added because players complained that the game wasn't challenging enough (that's also why there are two separate level caps), furthermore it is OPTIONAL, you don't have to play it. TVHM is redundant and is just there for people who just aren't skilled enough to handle UVHM.

Furthermore you can kill enemies with gear that is underlevelled is possible it's just not practical . To highlight this, I play at OP10; I don't expect someone like you, with no knowledge of the game to know what that means, but simply put enemies have 66% damage reduction and bosses have 76%, and my HP bar is level 80, while enemies are level 90 and bosses are level 92. So if you can't handle killing enemies with underlevelled gear, that's a skill issue, nothing more.

Lastly, Golden Keys exist which guarantees on level purple rarity gear, except relics which can be blue-purple. There is literally a pinned thread with hundreds of keys on this forum and there is also the orcz website. But that's not the only option, you can disable your level cap until you reach UVHM.

Thank you for making this comment, highlighting your lack of knowledge about the game. Just try not to post ignorant rants without prior research, it just makes you look foolish.

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by Justuค็็็็็็็sFIN:

Originally posted by ꧁Renfrew꧂:

Doing DLCs in TVHM is a bad idea, if you overlevel you'll softlock your game and make it extremely difficult to progress when you try to do UVHM. UVHM scales to your current level, but TVHM only gives level 50 gear max. The obvious problem, as an example, is if you have level 50 gear and you are level 55 you'll be trying to kill level 55 enemies with level 50 gear, which is ridiculously difficult. In UVHM any non-major enemy has HP regen furthermore the HP values are double that of TVHM and quadruple that of Normal Mode.

The general strategy everyone employs is:
Normal Mode Story -> All DLC and side missions on Normal Mode -> TVHM story -> UVHM story -> farming to max level -> UVHM DLC and side missions

Talk about ♥♥♥♥ game design where you'll be punished if you play the game.

On the contrary, UVHM is the real game, and the current situation saves you from having to redo everytbing for a third time once the game actually starts at level 50.

[YamaKasin]

Sorry guys, but I just wanted to ask how can I make the Headhunter DLC scale up to my level? All the other DLCs did, just not this one. Is there a way to push it at least to 50? Shouldn't it be scaled automatically upon entering?

As much as I understand that UVHM is where the real challenge is, that's not what I'm looking for. TVHM is just good enough for me, but lvl 35 mobs and bosses is just not fun at all. Was just wondering why it didn't scale up to our lvl.

We are playing very casually, once every weekend or so, when we've got time for that. We're not looking to max anything out and we will probably leave the game forever once we see the whole content. The only reason we started TVHM was to quickly get to a travel station and start DLCs with a better level scaling for more fun ;)

[Renfrew]

The game is based on the host's save file, hence the host must have visited the DLC at some point, even if you ALT+F4 or fast travel quickly it is too late, the scaling is stuck, because in BL2 you automatically save upon fast travelling to a new place. If you are not against it, the only way to fix it is to use gibbed. Beyond that if you don't like the idea of using a save editor, not much else you can do. The method of changing it is long and not particularly enjoyable, bear that in mind. Whoever is hosting needs to be the one who does the adjustment.

[Aggrocore]

Originally posted by ꧁Renfrew꧂:

The game is based on the host's save file, hence the host must have visited the DLC at some point, even if you ALT+F4 or fast travel quickly it is too late, the scaling is stuck, because in BL2 you automatically save upon fast travelling to a new place. If you are not against it, the only way to fix it is to use gibbed. Beyond that if you don't like the idea of using a save editor, not much else you can do. The method of changing it is long and not particularly enjoyable, bear that in mind. Whoever is hosting needs to be the one who does the adjustment.

I came on here to see if there were any conversations about this, as I just did the Headhunters in TVHM at level 55 and they were all level 41 enemies and gear. But I am positively sure I had never visited them in TVHM before today (though previouslyI did 2 in UVHM before returning to TVH).

[Geldric™]

All this talk about UVHM is: start of game, real game, challenging, etc.... sure, sure if you want to mandate that you have both a healing gun/process & slag gun/process, UVHM is greeeaaat.

Regardless, the issue of NVHM & TVHM not scaling to your level is resolved with this awesome mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/borderlands2/mods/79
and that’s all it does. Changes every map so that it scales to your level in both NVHM & TVHM.

Prior to my recent increase in game time trying to 100% (without mods), I would add the scaling mod to all the mods I ran (if it wasn’t already included). It worked great with Reborn, Exodus & BLassic (my favorites).

GLHF

[Bob Rooney]

maybe this will answer OP's question at least partially:

once you finish the main campaign on tvhm ( meaning killing the warrior and unlocking UVHM ) every quest and dlc you havent activated up to that point scales up to lvl 50. to my knowledge the headhunter bosses also scale to lvl 50.

btw : no need to be hostile on this matter, OP was just asking a simple question and some elitist people giving him ♥♥♥♥ for not wanting to play UVHM, which is horribly unbalanced and not meant for casual gamers that dont sink dozens or hundreds of hours into this game.

[Renfrew]

Pointless necroing is pointless, check the date on a thread before wasting your time and giving everyone a notification for a dead thread.

@Bob Rooney

Beyond the fact that you wrongly take advice as elitist propaganda. No one "attacked OP", stop embarrassing yourself because you can't handle opposing opinions.

[Aggrocore]

Threads don't have to stay dead, I came across this problem and wanted to see if it was common and it appears so. Even that mod linked above mentions it. It sounds like a bad design oversight. And it's ironic too since I started two of the HH's in UVHM and they were outright impossible, I couldn't even take a scratch out of the Halloween boss without two other players because it was regenerating health so fast, everything was a giant waste of ammo and time, etc, which was weird since I had just beat the Warrior in TVHM solo in under a minute with relative ease. So I went back to TVHM to finish all expansion stories at a more normal pace.

It's not even a huge deal about the Headhunters, since they're so short and mainly there for comic relief it seems like, but strange that they seem to have to be either super easy or super difficult.

I bookmarked that mod for future use, thanks.