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No, I'm saying that you do whatever you want. Here:
1. Firstly, I was explaining what another user (Ayala) told the OP more clearly. This should be pretty obvious when you read the quote that I started my post with. I don't know how this involves you, and why you took issue with this. Second, Ayala's point is correct and logical. You are bypassing hours of playtime. If you want to, you can. It's your choice (like I said).
2. Ummmm... Now you're being pedantic, and for no reason. I didn't pass any judgement on using Gibbed. I didn't even use the term "cheating". I don't know why you've got your panties in a twist. Your issue; don't make it mine.
3. Call it modding all you want, but save editing is not modding. You're not changing or modifying the game at all. Modding involves adding a mechanic or cosmetic effect that is not naturally available in the game. All Gibbed does is hack your save so you can get stuff. So now I will use the term that I did not use. Cheating. You can dress it any way you like but that's what it is. Calling it modding is intellectually dishonest.
4. Kay, I don't care how many platforms you've played it on, and I don't care how many "legitimate" saves you have. I have also played this game on multiple platforms. This is neither here nor there. Like I said, anyone can do whatever they want.
5. Oh, I also answered the OP's question. There is absolutely no risk in using Gibbed, especially if you back up your save files first. My response is relevant. It is also common sense. If you're editing your saves, then you should probably back them up first. Not my fault that OP didn't apply it.
6. Funny, since it is your unnecessary response to me that is the most asinine one in this thread. You made multiple assumptions about me based on things that I didn't even say. Also my response was more relevant than yours.
7. Finally, What is your problem? Actually, I don't really care... However, I advise that you go learn some reading comprehension skills though.
1. Yeah, it's not modding. Go over to the Steam Workshop of any game that has one to have a clearer understanding of what modding is. New characters, new maps, new enemies, new/altered mechanics, etc. Referring to save editing as modding is like calling a piece of toast with ketchup and cheese on it a pizza.
2. Oh, your personal interpretations and inferences are not my problem. I can hold an opinion too, just like you can. Regardless, my post was relevant, logical and in response to the OP's posts. I brought up the word cheating because you call a spade a spade.
3. Uh, no it isn't. This is not an absolute fact. This is your misinformed opinion. Please refer back to point 1. Gibbed is save editing, and Cheat Engine is memory hacking/injecting (a bannable offense on VAC protected games). Modding is adding a new mechanical or cosmetic element to the game that previously did not exist. Modding often also requires a certain degree of programming, or using pre-made tools by game devs to alter their games safely. Modding is not bannable on Steam. They have a platform for it.
4. Cool. Why even bring it up then?
5. Ummmmm, there is no risk if you back up your save files. Gibbed is not hard to use. It's easier to use than Microsoft Word, and any negative consequence can corrected very easily.
6. No. This only came out after your unwarranted response and was not originally relevant to what I said to the OP.
7. Try reading my post again. I addressed the OP and answered his questions with being rude or ridiculing him. Your personal interpretations are your own. You are welcome to formulate them, but don't ascribe any unnecessary meaning to anything that I have said. I pick my words very carefully.
1. Editing a save is not a modification. You're not modifying anything. They are in no way part of the same category.
2. Amazing. Show me which parts.
3. Trying to dress it up again? Why? Do you feel bad that you do it and need to justify it by playing this sad little semantic game?
4. Still doesn't explain the relevance of your platform nonsense. People can play only on steam and still use gibbed.
5. How nice of you to finally stop interpreting your own nonsense in what I actually said.
6. I said never said that no one should use it? Where? Show me.
7. The initial post that I made contains nothing which can be interpreted as an issue with using gibbed. I'm starting to think that you're experiencing some other reality. Show me.
Oooh, calling someone kid on the internet. How original.
I'm saddened by the fact that you have left and will not engage with me further. Only because you never found all the little presents that I have been leaving you.
It's very simple, really.
If you cheat in your game, that's fine - after all, you can play how you want.
If you cheat and then enter other people's games (who don't like to cheat or play with cheaters), it's not fine. Because in that moment, you compromise their right to play how they want.
So it comes down to the common courtesy question.
Do you announce that you have used Gibbed to kit yourself out when you enter someone's game / do you announce this before connecting to someone in case you post for play buddies?
Are you fine with them saying "No, please leave" then and just leave, knowing they have their way, you have yours?
If the answer to the above is "No, I don't", then you are a sad excuse for a community member and a filthy cheater with no regard for others.
If the answer is "Yes, of course", then it's fine because you grant the same right you enjoy to other people and understand that people don't like this sort of thing, much as you like it.
Edit:
Just in case someone tries the "But my character does nothing to other players, gibbed or not" excuse, no, that's not the point.
The point is you can defend your cheating habits as much as others can defend their habit of not wanting anything to do with such people.
Accept that, and there's much less trouble all around.
In fact, all the casual cheating pretty much killed public coop in BL2 simply because so many cheaters are entitled brats who think their right to play how they want overrides the other person's right to play how they want.
How can you cheat or how is considered "cheating" when you use Gibbed...specially when you join someone else's game....
My understanding of "cheating" in a video game is to use an advantage that is not available to your opponentsand Gibbed isavailable to anybody.
Having said that...if you join someone else's game who do not use Gibbed and you know youare notsupoused to use it...then the cheating argument may become valid.
I always host so I just toss people who don't like it. I agree that it is a host decision and everyone else gets to deal or get kicked.