Alkaline Bee shield

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So i have been farming treeants for a Alkaline Bee shield but instead i have gotten eleven normal bee shield. Do you have to kille them with a certan weapon to get a certan shield?

[Renfrew]

Just keep grinding, that's all you can do.

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Originally posted by ꧁Renfrew꧂:

Just keep grinding, that's all you can do.

I mean i guess but it seems like i am doing something wrong brecause i have sixteen normal Bees

[dontu_worry]

Some BL2 statistician type will be along shortly to tell you the exact odds of an elemental bee dropping. As someone who has farmed 2 or 3 sets, I can tell you that on average it takes at least a couple hundred treeant kills to get one to drop, or so it seems to me. And then its the wrong element, with an 8 second delay. Learn to kill treeants very quickly and dont bother with elemental bees until you are OP10.

[xX_GothGirlBootyInspector_Xx]

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Some BL2 statistician type will be along shortly to tell you the exact odds of an elemental bee dropping. As someone who has farmed 2 or 3 sets, I can tell you that on average it takes at least a couple hundred treeant kills to get one to drop, or so it seems to me. And then its the wrong element, with an 8 second delay. Learn to kill treeants very quickly and dont bother with elemental bees until you are OP10.

Ok but i need one to defeat master gee and not die from the corrosive gas

[Renfrew]

Why ask a question if you are going to argue about the answer, you get?

There are 9 possible combinations for the shield capacitor, 5 of which have no elemental resistance, the other 4 are: Torgue-Explosive, Maliwan-Fire, Maliwan-Shock, and of course Maliwan-Corrosive. You are more likely to get a non-elemental capacitor than an elemental capacitor, it doesn't matter that the chance is only 4/9 (for an elemental one), your drops coincide with the facts.

You don't need a Bee for the Master Gee fight, a Bee Shield won't stop the corrosive puddles, because all an elemental capacitor does is prevent a DoT from being applied to you it doesn't make you immune to an elemental type. A booster shield won't work either.

Master Gee is immune to damage until his shield is taken down, so to beat him you are supposed to kill the Sand Worms, each time one dies a corrosive puddle appears, you need to make Master Gee stand in the centre of the puddle until he absorbs it, at which point the puddle will permanently disappear (instead of getting bigger) and Master Gee's shield will begin to drain (slag accelerates this effect). Once his shield is depleted he will take damage from weapons (in UVHM, when his shield bar depletes he has a lesser shield that appears afterwards, but it is not immune to damage like the first shield). This is the only point where a Bee is useful against Master Gee, but even then it is not recommended, as it is very east to get slaughtered by the high damage of the Sand Worms and Master Gee. The best method to keep Master Gee in corrosive puddles is using singularity grenades.

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Originally posted by ꧁Renfrew꧂:

Why ask a question if you are going to argue about the answer, you get?

There are 9 possible combinations for the shield capacitor, 5 of which have no elemental resistance, the other 4 are: Torgue-Explosive, Maliwan-Fire, Maliwan-Shock, and of course Maliwan-Corrosive. You are more likely to get a non-elemental capacitor than an elemental capacitor, it doesn't matter that the chance is only 4/9 (for an elemental one), your drops coincide with the facts.

You don't need a Bee for the Master Gee fight, a Bee Shield won't stop the corrosive puddles, because all an elemental capacitor does is prevent a DoT from being applied to you it doesn't make you immune to an elemental type. A booster shield won't work either.

Master Gee is immune to damage until his shield is taken down, so to beat him you are supposed to kill the Sand Worms, each time one dies a corrosive puddle appears, you need to make Master Gee stand in the centre of the puddle until he absorbs it, at which point the puddle will permanently disappear (instead of getting bigger) and Master Gee's shield will begin to drain (slag accelerates this effect). Once his shield is depleted he will take damage from weapons (in UVHM, when his shield bar depletes he has a lesser shield that appears afterwards, but it is not immune to damage like the first shield). This is the only point where a Bee is useful against Master Gee, but even then it is not recommended, as it is very east to get slaughtered by the high damage of the Sand Worms and Master Gee. The best method to keep Master Gee in corrosive puddles is using singularity grenades.

TF you mean argue
I know that i dont NEED it for the master Gee fight but it help alot with the corrosive damage from the clouds the sandworms leave after they die.
And i was just saying that i thought that i did something wrong and what i needed it for so i don't know where you get arguing from
I did not say that you were wrong or anything

[Starbug]

I've found grounded and inflammable but never alkaline. It's just your luck. As others say, it could take hundreds upon hundreds of runs to find one.

[Renfrew]

@omegaxenox

"Argue" means "to verbally disagree", hence I said you should continue farming, you insisted that you think there is another factor involved. It's quite unfair to have someone dismiss your answer, despite the fact that they are the one seeking knowledge, that's the point I was trying to make. I won't waste anymore time talking about this aspect, as it is irrelevant and quiet tedious...

Again a corrosive capacitor ONLY prevents Damage over Time, same with other elemental capacitors. This means it has no effect on the puddles left by the sandworms upon death. Therefore, this isn't even a case of whether you need it, it is fundamentally useless for theatspecific purpose. On the other hand it will stop the balls of acid sandworms spit from applying a DoT, and it will also stop the "nova" (if you get to close to the sandworms they will perform a nova attack). Neither of those are enough reason to farm an Alkaline shield, as the acid balls are easy to dodge and you shouldn't be getting too close to the sandworms anyway.

The best aspect of an alkaline shield is that corrosive damage over time lasts longer than shock and fire, making it the superior capacitor type. It also is a Maliwan part, meaning it boosts special effects to the highest possible values, including (but not limited to): Amp, booster chance, Nova, Spike, Elemental resistance.

So in conclusion if you are farming a Bee to fight Gee, it's wasted effort, on the other hand if you are farming one for the other benefits then it is worth it. Have fun farming!

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by omegaxenox:

i need one to defeat master gee and not die from the corrosive gas

[z00t]

@OP. Like most loot in this game, it is all down to how generous the game RNGods are feeling. If you have offended them in some way, you will not see an elemental Bee for ages. They are just rare drops.
Or you can be ridiculously lucky and get one on the first attempt. I wasn't farming, just passing through on the story mission when this one dropped. Go figure.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1955046013

A 'perfect' elemental Bee will have a recharge delay of 6.16 seconds. I have found them before, but I have found a cubic crapload of less than perfect Bees. Game RNG at work. Nice to get but a monumental pain to farm for specifically.

As far as needing one for Gee, nope. It really will not help much. That fight will work much better if you have a singularity grenade mod that will pull him into the sandworm goo. That is the only way his shield can be taken down, and you will likely need three or four dead sandworms to make it happen in a sensible time.
Axton can kill the sandworm and throw his turret into the goo, and Gee will get in close and attack it, and absorb the goo while he does it. For the others, a singularity grenade, low delay will be more useful.

For Gee, farm the vendors for a suitable singularity grenade. It will be way more useful to you than an Alkaline Bee.