Axton or Maya for sniper build ?

[Imyo]

After a while using Zero's skill i started to hate how it looks so im going to avoid him.

Axton or Maya ?

Is a non elemental build powerfull enough ? mostly for Axton, i like how Jakobs weapons look. Im guessing double turret plus double up and longbow place turrets to start sniping from a safe distance. Also grenades ?

Or maya and elemental snipers ?, Mayas phaselock is so cool and usefull. Plus ricochet.

[Zen_Disaster]

Options are wider with Maya whose skills make her the best team mate in coop and ~ I feel ~ the most OP class for solo at the game's higher levels. But both classes have their attractions ~ why not try soloing both along with whatever others interest you up to level 50 UVHM ? From there, you'll know which one or two classes suit you best for the harder 30 levels of the game up to max lvl 80 / OP8. Have fun

[DocStrangelove]

Phaselock is sweet for finishing off enemies with a sniper headshot. That said, I'm not a sniper fan, I'm currently playing Zer0 but I'm all into the Bloodshed tree for melee mayhem.

[green]

Originally posted by Imyo:

After a while using Zero's skill i started to hate how it looks so im going to avoid him.

Pray tell, what do you hate about sniper Zer0? I mean, I'm sure Axton and Maya can use sniper rifles well too, but they're gonna pale in comparison to Zer0. (Yes, even a Maya the Pimp gimmick and pseudo B0re)

[Imyo]

Originally posted by Hunter in the Green Vest:

Originally posted by Imyo:

After a while using Zero's skill i started to hate how it looks so im going to avoid him.

Pray tell, what do you hate about sniper Zer0? I mean, I'm sure Axton and Maya can use sniper rifles well too, but they're gonna pale in comparison to Zer0. (Yes, even a Maya the Pimp gimmick and pseudo B0re)

The blue color of enemies, and the big ass red circle pointing the weak spots, its annoying to look at, for the same reason i quit playing my fire phycho, i need an easier to the eye playstyle.

Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:

Options are wider with Maya whose skills make her the best team mate in coop and ~ I feel ~ the most OP class for solo at the game's higher levels. But both classes have their attractions ~ why not try soloing both along with whatever others interest you up to level 50 UVHM ? From there, you'll know which one or two classes suit you best for the harder 30 levels of the game up to max lvl 80 / OP8. Have fun

My maya is almost lvl 50 already, and its absurdly overpowered, im still using the infinity pistol, just the elemental effects from the skill tree take care of everything, normal mode was a cakewalk.

Now im Leveling up axton and im having a hard time, REALLY HARD TIME at even level 20. But i guess it gets better as soon as i have more skillpoints.

Originally posted by DrStrangelove:

Phaselock is sweet for finishing off enemies with a sniper headshot. That said, I'm not a sniper fan, I'm currently playing Zer0 but I'm all into the Bloodshed tree for melee mayhem.

I tried melee zero, it was fun, but i hate having to use the roid shield and a bladed pistol to deal dmg, i wanted to swing the sword but after a while its just not enough in terms of dmg.

[HiTmAn]

maya is very very strong solo cz u can totally ignore any healing skill parried with grog and chain lightning u have insta heal... get blurred trickster com with +6 chain reaction get pimp and have fun.with axton u can snipe as well but with maya is more easy cz she have ruin and converge witch make insta slag group of enemies

[DocStrangelove]

Originally posted by Imyo:

Originally posted by DrStrangelove:

Phaselock is sweet for finishing off enemies with a sniper headshot. That said, I'm not a sniper fan, I'm currently playing Zer0 but I'm all into the Bloodshed tree for melee mayhem.

I tried melee zero, it was fun, but i hate having to use the roid shield and a bladed pistol to deal dmg, i wanted to swing the sword but after a while its just not enough in terms of dmg.

I get that. It's situational, at least it seems so right now in my playthrough. Against hordes of medium/weak enemies it's overkill, you just rip through them. Against tough enemies/bosses, it doesn't do much.

The more I play with other characters, the more I realise how good Phaselock (with Ruin/Converge/Cloud Kill/Wreck/Chain Reaction/etc.) is. It's powerful at any range and in almost any situation.

I mentioned that Phaselock makes it easy to do sniper headshots, but actually that's not what it's best for. Max out Wreck, Chain Reaction, Flicker etc. and use Maliwan SMGs to cause maximum elemental agony. Better than sniper guns.

[Starbug]

Played hundreds of hours will a sniping siren coop partner and she kicked butt all over the screen. I main commando but don't use snipers so cant help on that front, I'm afraid.

[Imyo]

Originally posted by Starbug:

Played hundreds of hours will a sniping siren coop partner and she kicked butt all over the screen. I main commando but don't use snipers so cant help on that front, I'm afraid.

Well thats good to know tho, i apreciate that information, im already going for Maya, i already enjoyed her more but after reading this comments its an easy choice.

Just 1 question, do you remember if your friend used a bee shield ? i understand how powerfull it is with high fire rate, but for snipers i dont know.

Originally posted by DrStrangelove:

Originally posted by Imyo:

I tried melee zero, it was fun, but i hate having to use the roid shield and a bladed pistol to deal dmg, i wanted to swing the sword but after a while its just not enough in terms of dmg.

I get that. It's situational, at least it seems so right now in my playthrough. Against hordes of medium/weak enemies it's overkill, you just rip through them. Against tough enemies/bosses, it doesn't do much.

The more I play with other characters, the more I realise how good Phaselock (with Ruin/Converge/Cloud Kill/Wreck/Chain Reaction/etc.) is. It's powerful at any range and in almost any situation.

I mentioned that Phaselock makes it easy to do sniper headshots, but actually that's not what it's best for. Max out Wreck, Chain Reaction, Flicker etc. and use Maliwan SMGs to cause maximum elemental agony. Better than sniper guns.

I know smgs are amazing, i actually started the character with that in mind, but i wanted to try something a bit different, the goal of this build is to avoid FFYL spam, with maya at least up until my current lvl 50 its super easy to get away with FFYL just with cloud kill, but im not fond of that mechanic, i want to manage my hp bar and shield like any other standard shooter.

[z00t]

Maya is the 2nd best sniper in the game, after sniper Zer0. She has lots of gun damage buffs - Accelerate, Wreck and Reaper can produce some huge damage numbers. Axton does not come close. If you can hit crits reliably, especially on phaselocked enemies, Maya destroys them with a sniper rifle.
Add in Chain Reaction, Converge, Ruin and the rest, groups of slagged enemies die while you are critting the phaselocked target.

[Imyo]

Originally posted by z00t:

Maya is the 2nd best sniper in the game, after sniper Zer0. She has lots of gun damage buffs - Accelerate, Wreck and Reaper can produce some huge damage numbers. Axton does not come close. If you can hit crits reliably, especially on phaselocked enemies, Maya destroys them with a sniper rifle.
Add in Chain Reaction, Converge, Ruin and the rest, groups of slagged enemies die while you are critting the phaselocked target.

That was my thinking, but i wasnt sure about the dmg the turrets provide, i remember back in the day when there was a level cap of 61 (was it ?) i had a max level axton and i used turrets just for the buffs because the dmg was almost non existent even when specced into it, but im not sure how it is now, Cloud kill was also quite bad, and now is a beast.

[Gadget]

Originally posted by Imyo:

Originally posted by z00t:

Maya is the 2nd best sniper in the game, after sniper Zer0. She has lots of gun damage buffs - Accelerate, Wreck and Reaper can produce some huge damage numbers. Axton does not come close. If you can hit crits reliably, especially on phaselocked enemies, Maya destroys them with a sniper rifle.
Add in Chain Reaction, Converge, Ruin and the rest, groups of slagged enemies die while you are critting the phaselocked target.

That was my thinking, but i wasnt sure about the dmg the turrets provide, i remember back in the day when there was a level cap of 61 (was it ?) i had a max level axton and i used turrets just for the buffs because the dmg was almost non existent even when specced into it, but im not sure how it is now, Cloud kill was also quite bad, and now is a beast.

turrets still dont do a lot of damage in the late game but theyre still good for support

[Sir Fed Dump]

I agree. Both Zero & Maya make great snipers.