why didnt borderlands 2 expand upon hybrid weapons?

[Esi]

literally one of the coolest features of borderlands 1 and how exciting and awesome it was to find them, was the hybrid weapons. i understand why there arent any hybrid weapons cause all unqiue guns are defined by there barrel for some retarded reason.

has gearbox or anyone said anything regarding legit hybrid weapons? everytime i search google all i get is people wanting black rarity weapons

[Terry Rosario]

I'm excited to play Borderlands 1 and see these famous hybrid weapons
and there is not much about hybrid weapons and why there are no more in borderlands 2 but I understand that there is more of this type of weapons in the pre squel.
but as they are in Borderlands 2 these are already predefined to be hybridized.

[Renfrew]

Hybrid weapons weren't intended, and the mediocre number (i.e. 9) of legit hybrid weapons that exist in BL1 have only 2 or 3 that are exceptionally good.

[Esi]

Originally posted by Zack Cyrus:

Hybrid weapons weren't intended, and the mediocre number (i.e. 9) of legit hybrid weapons that exist in BL1 have only 2 or 3 that are exceptionally good.

thats the thing, why not expand on something that seemed to have so much potential?

if you were somehow lucky enough to find some crazy combo from borderlands 2, you could make your own build around it and have a completely diffrent paly style from most people.

hybrid weapons. (if done right) would be the most exciting and fun thing around, also adds a new endgame as farming for this would take (hopefully) ages.

[Renfrew]

Originally posted by |Esi|:

thats the thing, why not expand on something that seemed to have so much potential?

You are asking why, and I already explained why, but let me go into greater detail. It wasn't intended, as such the developers had no idea this even existed, so how can they expand on something they aren't aware of? The devs simplified the loot system in Borderlands 2, inadvertently preventing hybrids from existing, but it was done because players were having a hard time getting the loot they wanted, and so the system was reworked; this is sad, because it was actually the fun part about Borderlands 1, you didn't need specific parts for a gun to be good, and it was so rare to see the same gun with the same parts more than once. There was a lot more unpredictabilityand randomess to it, which added much more replay value compared to Borderlands 2.

You should make a petition of 20,000 signatures (which shouldn't be hard given Borderlands 2's active playerbase: https://steamcharts.com/app/49520) and spread the word, and see how many you get. Maybe Gearbox will respond, maybe they won't, who knows? Sitting here saying "why didn't they" is not going to change anything, and I am not doing anything because I personally don't care whether Hybrids exist or don't exist in BL3.

Originally posted by |Esi|:

if you were somehow lucky enough to find some crazy combo from borderlands 2, you could make your own build around it and have a completely diffrent paly style from most people.

Generally the community is focused around the best guns, and just ignore anything else, which is why you often find players not shutting up about Grog and Unkempt Harold, so in fact, having great overpowered weapons like Hybrids, would just limit playstyles again.

Originally posted by |Esi|:

hybrid weapons. (if done right) would be the most exciting and fun thing around, also adds a new endgame as farming for this would take (hopefully) ages.

"most exciting and fun"? That is a little bit of an overstatement, there is a lot more to making a build in Borderlands than just the gun which you use.
Given how the current community mindset cares so much about getting good parts and prefixes unlike Borderlands 1, this is just going to make players want increased drop rates for their "perfect" gear, so farming times might be reduced even further.

[Esi]

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"It wasn't intended, as such the developers had no idea this even existed, so how can they expand on something they aren't aware of?"

the devs of borderlands 1 know about the hybrid weapons.

"Sitting here saying "why didn't they" is not going to change anything, and I am not doing anything because I personally don't care whether Hybrids exist or don't exist in BL3."

another question i asked was; "has gearbox or anyone said anything regarding legit hybrid weapons? everytime i search google all i get is people wanting black rarity weapons"

"Generally the community is focused around the best guns, and just ignore anything else, which is why you often find players not shutting up about Grog and Unkempt Harold, so in fact, having great overpowered weapons like Hybrids, would just limit playstyles again."

this players play how they want to. people can choose to gib in weapons if they want. some people perfer to find them by chance. you cant base a whole community around the loud ones. also there is nothing limiting playstyles in this game except for the player. a singleplayer game with no emphasis on pvp or anything of the sort does not and will not adhear to a "meta" . sure some people want to be min maxers and have anything be perfect with the highest stats and god roles. good for them they can do that.

""most exciting and fun"? That is a little bit of an overstatement, there is a lot more to making a build in Borderlands than just the gun which you use.
Given how the current community mindset cares so much about getting good parts and prefixes unlike Borderlands 1, this is just going to make players want increased drop rates for their "perfect" gear, so farming times might be reduced even further."

this is hypotheitcal. neither you or me know what will happen with drop rates. people who want there perfect gear withoutfarming will always find a work around.

i dunno how to make the boxes and shiz so put up with the wall of text.

[Renfrew]

Originally posted by |Esi|:

the devs of borderlands 1 know about the hybrid weapons.

Source, I have never seen devs address hybrid weapons. No anecdotes, please... Essentially Hybrid weapons are only possible due to an overlook on the devs part on how weapon generation works. Unlike Borderlands 2, in Borderlands 1 parts other than the barrel can define a unique weapon, such as the scope, grip or accesory, as such this causes rare situations where a gun takes one unique part and combines it with another.

Originally posted by |Esi|:

another question i asked was; "has gearbox or anyone said anything regarding legit hybrid weapons? everytime i search google all i get is people wanting black rarity weapons"

Okay you asked a question, and Googled something how is that going to get Gearbox's attention, and let them know you and others want Hybrid weapons? I repeat, make a petition, the sooner the better. BL3 is already in development, so why wait? It's advice, nothing more.

Originally posted by |Esi|:

this players play how they want to. people can choose to gib in weapons if they want. some people perfer to find them by chance. you cant base a whole community around the loud ones. also there is nothing limiting playstyles in this game except for the player. a singleplayer game with no emphasis on pvp or anything of the sort does not and will not adhear to a "meta" . sure some people want to be min maxers and have anything be perfect with the highest stats and god roles. good for them they can do that.

You cannot expect variety out of encouraging OP guns, it will make other things not worth using. This is why people will turn up their noses at the Pocket Rocket, but will encourage the Unkempt Harold. Borderlands 2 community does not adhere to a meta? I am sorry, but years of forum posts and discussions strongly disagree with you. The sad reality is the majority of the playerbase aren't that good at the game or figuring things out for themselves, which is why they need a guide in the first place, as such they are easily susceptible to popular opinions. Just look at how the "Diamond Weisenheimer is the rarest gun in the game" myth became a thing, or "Axton is not viable at OP levels".

Originally posted by |Esi|:

this is hypotheitcal. neither you or me know what will happen with drop rates. people who want there perfect gear withoutfarming will always find a work around.

It is a hypotehtical situation based on past evidence. We already know that Gearbox listens to feedback from fans, when something is brought to their attention, which is why they modified the loot system in BL2 in the first place as previously pointed out. Bringing up a new factor (i.e. hybrid weapons) will have to make them rework the loot system again, and as such decreasing drop rates would make hybrid guns about as common as the Cobra, which we already saw what happened with it, it had to have its drop rate buffed. It is a forgone conclusion.