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M0nk3y M0nk Feb 11, 2018 @ 9:57am
Skullmasher and Critical ascension
I have a skullmasher with 5 pellets per shot. i was thinking it could be possible to gain up to 5 stacks per shots. When i tested it, i only get 1 stack even if all pellets hit the head. the wiki says you could gain multiple stack per shot.

Has it been patched or is there something wrong on my end ?

Also is there another Rifle that could provide a similar effect ? (other than the pimpernel of course)
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Draekus Feb 11, 2018 @ 12:06pm 
the Lyuda.
dontu_worry Feb 11, 2018 @ 1:03pm 
The skullmasher is terrible for Zer0. For stacking CA, start a new character, and run past all the enemies possible, not doing any side missions to minimize your levelling. after "A Train to Catch", turn in outside Sanctuary, but don't remove the power core. Go to the Sanctuary bounty board, pick up "The Good the Bad and the Mordecai" and then go do it and farm a lyuda. After finishing Normal, start the Tina DLC and farm a Chaotic Good COM from a dice chest in the forest. A stockpile relic that allows more sniper ammo helps, too.

Pretty sure you're only allowed one CA stack per shot, regardless of how many hit. I've tried stacking with the Lyuda in the sweet spot, and still got only one stack, so forget that idea.

Wiki are full of crap. Play the game and learn it that way. Then go correct the damn wiki.
Last edited by dontu_worry; Feb 11, 2018 @ 1:11pm
HiTmAn Feb 11, 2018 @ 1:27pm 
for CA u wish to have chaotic neutral rogue com mag size + fire rate and low lvl drog stockpile relic also small tip wen u stacking do not open iventory u all stacks will gone...and farm slag longbow 0 fuse transfusion nade... once u stack enough kunai self.. and quickly go on boss
M0nk3y M0nk Feb 11, 2018 @ 4:10pm 


Originally posted by dontu_worry:
The skullmasher is terrible for Zer0. For stacking CA, start a new character, and run past all the enemies possible, not doing any side missions to minimize your levelling. after "A Train to Catch", turn in outside Sanctuary, but don't remove the power core. Go to the Sanctuary bounty board, pick up "The Good the Bad and the Mordecai" and then go do it and farm a lyuda. After finishing Normal, start the Tina DLC and farm a Chaotic Good COM from a dice chest in the forest. A stockpile relic that allows more sniper ammo helps, too.

Pretty sure you're only allowed one CA stack per shot, regardless of how many hit. I've tried stacking with the Lyuda in the sweet spot, and still got only one stack, so forget that idea.

Wiki are full of crap. Play the game and learn it that way. Then go correct the damn wiki.


I agree with you on the fact the skullmasher isn't the best option for a sniper zer0. but i like to use Jakobs snipers muckamuck,skullmasher and godfinger will always have a place in my inventory :)

Thank you for you advise but i already know the pre stacking strategy. In fact i add a rough rider to the equation for the constant fearless bonus

Shame you only can get 1 stack per shot. maybe that would be too op though


Anyway thanks for your answer.

ps: nice run on vora :)
Zen_Disaster Feb 13, 2018 @ 12:02am 
Originally posted by Monkey monk 777:
Originally posted by dontu_worry:
The skullmasher is terrible for Zer0. For stacking CA, start a new character, and run past all the enemies possible, not doing any side missions to minimize your levelling. after "A Train to Catch", turn in outside Sanctuary, but don't remove the power core. Go to the Sanctuary bounty board, pick up "The Good the Bad and the Mordecai" and then go do it and farm a lyuda. After finishing Normal, start the Tina DLC and farm a Chaotic Good COM from a dice chest in the forest. A stockpile relic that allows more sniper ammo helps, too.

Pretty sure you're only allowed one CA stack per shot, regardless of how many hit. I've tried stacking with the Lyuda in the sweet spot, and still got only one stack, so forget that idea.

Wiki are full of crap. Play the game and learn it that way. Then go correct the damn wiki.


I agree with you on the fact the skullmasher isn't the best option for a sniper zer0. but i like to use Jakobs snipers muckamuck,skullmasher and godfinger will always have a place in my inventory :)

Thank you for you advise but i already know the pre stacking strategy. In fact i add a rough rider to the equation for the constant fearless bonus

Shame you only can get 1 stack per shot. maybe that would be too op though


Anyway thanks for your answer.

ps: nice run on vora :)

Snipers that fire multiples per shot like Skullmasher can add multiple stacks of CA per pellet only if more than one scores a crit. Opening a menu like inventory or using a vending machine et al removes all stacks. Performing melee or pitching grenades doesn't affect stacks - but switching to a weapon that's not a sniper removes all stacks however switching to a different sniper retains stacks. While rumored to be impossible, Zer0 can get the 999 maximum stack if there's a Zerker with Hoarder class mod equipped on your team - while not an attractive option for many assassins due to their general antipathy to anything Sal-related, this maneuver will allow for ammo regen making it possible to attain all 999 stacks.
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Originally posted by Monkey monk 777:


I agree with you on the fact the skullmasher isn't the best option for a sniper zer0. but i like to use Jakobs snipers muckamuck,skullmasher and godfinger will always have a place in my inventory :)

Thank you for you advise but i already know the pre stacking strategy. In fact i add a rough rider to the equation for the constant fearless bonus

Shame you only can get 1 stack per shot. maybe that would be too op though


Anyway thanks for your answer.

ps: nice run on vora :)

Snipers that fire multiples per shot like Skullmasher can add multiple stacks of CA per pellet only if more than one scores a crit. Opening a menu like inventory or using a vending machine et al removes all stacks. Performing melee or pitching grenades doesn't affect stacks - but switching to a weapon that's not a sniper removes all stacks however switching to a different sniper retains stacks. While rumored to be impossible, Zer0 can get the 999 maximum stack if there's a Zerker with Hoarder class mod equipped on your team - while not an attractive option for many assassins due to their general antipathy to anything Sal-related, this maneuver will allow for ammo regen making it possible to attain all 999 stacks.

and yet, people tend to sh*t on Salvador (despite being a valuable team member to regenerate everyone's ammo)
dontu_worry Feb 13, 2018 @ 8:01am 
Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:

Snipers that fire multiples per shot like Skullmasher can add multiple stacks of CA per pellet only if more than one scores a crit. Opening a menu like inventory or using a vending machine et al removes all stacks. Performing melee or pitching grenades doesn't affect stacks - but switching to a weapon that's not a sniper removes all stacks however switching to a different sniper retains stacks. While rumored to be impossible, Zer0 can get the 999 maximum stack if there's a Zerker with Hoarder class mod equipped on your team - while not an attractive option for many assassins due to their general antipathy to anything Sal-related, this maneuver will allow for ammo regen making it possible to attain all 999 stacks.

and yet, people tend to sh*t on Salvador (despite being a valuable team member to regenerate everyone's ammo)

I can get 600 stacks without that crutch-dumpster stinking up my game. Screw Sal.
M0nk3y M0nk Feb 13, 2018 @ 8:45am 
Originally posted by dontu_worry:
Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:

and yet, people tend to sh*t on Salvador (despite being a valuable team member to regenerate everyone's ammo)

I can get 600 stacks without that crutch-dumpster stinking up my game. Screw Sal.

In fact if a Sal join the party, Sniper zer0 don't need to stack anymore, he don't even need to shoot ! Sal is so op...

There's an alterrnate ways to stack in coop without needed to kill yourself or a hoarder mod:

Equip a sham, start a duel with a friend and have him shoot you with a sniper. At least that way Ammo would regen even faster than with the hoarder effect
dontu_worry Feb 13, 2018 @ 9:10am 
Originally posted by Monkey monk 777:
Originally posted by dontu_worry:

I can get 600 stacks without that crutch-dumpster stinking up my game. Screw Sal.

In fact if a Sal join the party, Sniper zer0 don't need to stack anymore, he don't even need to shoot ! Sal is so op...

There's an alterrnate ways to stack in coop without needed to kill yourself or a hoarder mod:

Equip a sham, start a duel with a friend and have him shoot you with a sniper. At least that way Ammo would regen even faster than with the hoarder effect

Sal is not OP. He is a remedial cass for people who cant play the game properly.

I almost never co op, so I needed something that would work in solo play. Suiciding and finding a usable STOCKPILE relic are nonissues. I can get 600 stacks in 10 minutes my way. More than enough and far less cumbersome than the ridiculous circus you describe. Thanks for an idea that is far worse than what I have already demonstrated and used.
M0nk3y M0nk Feb 13, 2018 @ 9:34am 
Originally posted by dontu_worry:
Originally posted by Monkey monk 777:

In fact if a Sal join the party, Sniper zer0 don't need to stack anymore, he don't even need to shoot ! Sal is so op...

There's an alterrnate ways to stack in coop without needed to kill yourself or a hoarder mod:

Equip a sham, start a duel with a friend and have him shoot you with a sniper. At least that way Ammo would regen even faster than with the hoarder effect

Sal is not OP. He is a remedial cass for people who cant play the game properly.

I almost never co op, so I needed something that would work in solo play. Suiciding and finding a usable STOCKPILE relic are nonissues. I can get 600 stacks in 10 minutes my way. More than enough and far less cumbersome than the ridiculous circus you describe. Thanks for an idea that is far worse than what I have already demonstrated and used.


You don't have to be disobliging with your answers man. Do what you like and however you like
dontu_worry Feb 13, 2018 @ 9:38am 
Originally posted by Monkey monk 777:
Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Sal is not OP. He is a remedial cass for people who cant play the game properly.

I almost never co op, so I needed something that would work in solo play. Suiciding and finding a usable STOCKPILE relic are nonissues. I can get 600 stacks in 10 minutes my way. More than enough and far less cumbersome than the ridiculous circus you describe. Thanks for an idea that is far worse than what I have already demonstrated and used.


You don't have to be disobliging with your answers man. Do what you like and however you like

If you're going to suggest an alternative, make it an improvement.
M0nk3y M0nk Feb 13, 2018 @ 9:47am 
Originally posted by dontu_worry:
Originally posted by Monkey monk 777:


You don't have to be disobliging with your answers man. Do what you like and however you like

If you're going to suggest an alternative, make it an improvement.


It is working well IN COOP. the perfect partner: Axton with a gunner com. You stack faster, you don't need to kill yourself since axton can buy ammo when his pool is depleted. Sure it has a lot of requirement (getting a good sham is not easy), but at least your partner is not just here looking you stacking and killing yourself, he can contribute.
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