Level Scaling

[stan.klingenbart]

Hi,
Normally in NVHM areas don't scale to the players level. Dust and Lynchwood are the exception, they scale around my current level (30). This normally includes characters from earlier (lower level missions), for example the Sheriff or Gettle got way stronger.

Yet i just finished the Clan feud i overlooked before, yet still after ending the quest sucessfully and reloading and so on, the Zaford still are only LV 18ish, while everything else in the Dust is around 30. When will they "start" to scale?

thx

[Kashorro]

from what ive been told, level scalling is par to whatever level u are on uvhm, im just surprised how slow it is to level up on nvhm, been stuck on lvl 51 for ages tho.

its boring asf the mid game.

[z00t]

In normal, Gettle and Mobley scale depending on the story mission progress. The Zaffords / Hodunks do not.

@Kashorro. At level 51 you should be playing in UVHM. Have you even played in TVHM yet or are you still messing around in normal?

[Zen_Disaster]

Originally posted by Kashorro:

from what ive been told, level scalling is par to whatever level u are on uvhm, im just surprised how slow it is to level up on nvhm, been stuck on lvl 51 for ages tho. its boring asf the mid game.

Of course it's slow ~ somehow you fell way behind on your Game Modes (play-throughs) ~ you gotta keep these up-to-date or the game will start destroying your toon heavily at Levels 51 and higher if you're still in NVHM or TVHM.

I know it feels a little abrupt when you first learn it, but it's essential that the player start UVHM at Level 50 (no higher).

[DocStrangelove]

Honestly, why wait for them to scale? Just enter TVHM

[Kashorro]

Originally posted by z00t:

In normal, Gettle and Mobley scale depending on the story mission progress. The Zaffords / Hodunks do not.

@Kashorro. At level 51 you should be playing in UVHM. Have you even played in TVHM yet or are you still messing around in normal?

I havent finished my second playthrought yet... (Im guessing thats what I gotta do before going uhvm).

If thats not the case Idk how to get into uhvm.

[z00t]

@Kashorr0. Yes. Completing TVHM will unlock UVHM. I would suggest completing the story in TVHM now, and try not to level up much more.

UVHM always scales to you, so if you delay starting UVHM until you are much higher than 50 and then trying to take on UVHM enemies with level 50 gear (TVHM cap) at best is not a good idea. UVHM enemies will be your level usually, with badasses higher and bosses like Captain Flynt 2 levels higher than you.
So if you started UVHM at 55, Flynt will be 57 and your gear would not be. UVHM enemies have a lot more hp, have health regen, and usually have shields. They are a bit of a shock the first time you encounter them. The greater the difference in your gear compared to them, the worse it will be.

Run through the TVHM story missions and unlock UVHM before you get much higher level.

[Kashorro]

@z00t.

It sounds like I will be getting gear from the sanctuary with the golden keys.
Im still falling behind main story, went to sawtooth caldron earlier today as I went to lvl 52