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You indeed should be able to phase lock Doc Mercy - if that's what you mean when you write "...it didn't phase him either...'.
What level are you and where and on what map are you meeting him?
If you are playing another toon, one good strategy for Doc Mercy is to use singularity 'nade mods. Throwing them near him but to the side will not only disrupt his attacks, but throw him off balance....and lift his shield, allowing you access to his fleshy bits.
Fire is always a good element to use on him too, even with his shield down as the DOT damage still affects him.
I also use a Spitter on him for much the same reason as the singularity grenades. The rapid fire of explosive rounds from this AR will lead to knock back and again an opening to attack him directly.
Axtons turrets can be deployed behind him, again for diversion - if close enough to him, the aggro will lead to him turning his back to you as he attacks the turret.
There are other strategies as well, but most will follow the same idea.
Slag first for even faster results.
Cover is there for you to use as well on every map. Your shields are simply meant as warnings that you are about to take health damage.
Level?
Spec? (use https://bl2skills.com/vanilla.html to post your spec).
If you've only got pistols, then you haven't been looking around enough. There are a lot of weapon machines and chests scattered over Three Horns and the Southern Shelf, look for them, reload the game if necessary.
Yes, Doc Mercy can be a tough fight. Try using Elemental weapons. Shoot at his feet, or his hands, then run, an let the DoT from the Elemental weapon tick.
Your character's Action skill should help you (to a greater or lesser extent depending on what class you've chosen).
Evasion and use of cover are key game skills, that's one of the things Doc Mercy is meant to teach. Brut force and "tanking" aren't really good approaches to this game.
Oh I'm looking, believe me. I open every container, and check every corner. I'm constantly running back to vending machines because I find so much loot! ...But they're all pistols or shotguns. And I run sniper rifles.
I've tried going for feet and hands. It doesn't seem to do anything. Its not like the Jackals from Halo where there's a small opening where their hands are. The shield covers his entire body.
Tanking as zer0 would be a terrible idea lmao.
I did find a gun that "explodes like a grenade when reloaded" and a shield that spits corrosion at anyone who melee or range attacks me tho.
You aren't able to get behind him via Deception?
No I didn't, but his shield I figure is troublesome no matter what class you are except for Siren
Nope. He comes out from a small house-like thing in a narrow alley. Its about 50 feet of narrow. If I was a melee build then I could just slide around him, but I'm not high enough level to make melee effective, and I don't have the proper gear for it. I'll respect when I'm like level 30-35 probably, but its just not effective in lower levels.
You have to lure him pretty far back, then there's a power device in the middle that goes up through the hole above the cave, with power lines going out. You can use deception there, then run around it and flank him that way, but he never stops firing that Eridian weapon, even if you take cover, and one hit eats through your shields and health.
First thing...if you are near level 16 or so, you should be able to do the mission in Sanctuary that rewards the bladed Jakobs Law pistol. This is a very useful melee weapon for Zer0 for the melee damage % it does. You can later pair it with the Order shield to give you a chance to heal with each swipe.
I'd agree with you that at the level you may be at, Doc Mercy can be tough for Zer0 or Krieg. But you should try what I suggested earlier; there are multiple ways to get him to lift his shield. You can also lure him out of the cave (even as far as you need to do so) where you can then hop in your car and run him over.
It's also an important thing to learn in this game; you will no doubt encounter rough spots (especially as Zer0). But there is always a way.
Grenades have uses beyond damage. Singularities especially. These grenade mods are especially useful for the assassin.
Regarding wanting to run snipers with Zer0, this is a fun way to play and of course he's skilled at doing so. But until you can spec into some of his more powerful sniping skills in the left tree, keep an open mind about gear and types. Do otherwise as you are learning and you do yourself a huge disservice.
Elemental weapons. Aim for the feet or hands, or head. Anything that sticks out.
Specifically, Humans are weak to Fire, however, A Shock or Corrosive weapon would work too.
A Singularity Grenade (not a Homing one) will pull him, and cause him to drop his shield for a moment.
Axton can use his Turret to draw aggro
Gaige can use Deathtrap to draw aggro
Maya can Phaselock him
Salvador has a bit trickier time since his ability affects him more than the world, but he is tougher when using it, which allows him to use similar tactics to Zer0.
Zer0 can attack, apply a DoT, then use Decepti0n to drop aggro and move back.
Krieg ... who knows? Not me certainly, I don't "get" Krieg, although some people love him.
Again, you need to look around more. There are perfectly good weapons all over the Southern Shelf and Three Horns.
Mind you, you may have to use Green or even White gear. But I assure you, that weapon machine outside of Sanctuary does indeed have Snipers in it. There are two weapon machines in Sanctuary (one in front of the Crimson Raider headquarters, and Marcus himself is the second). Check them both. Reload the game a couple of times if need be.
Also, even if you're using Zer0 you should be expecting to use more than just Snipers. Zer0 should be carrying some pistols and a shotgun or two at the very least. But for Doc Mercy, grab an Elemental Maliwan SMG, or a some kind of Elemental pistol with a high fire rate.
As for Doc Mercy, not that much sticks out. Slivers of his body, barely anything, and with him wandering back and forth and always keeping his shield -which is arguably bigger than he is- to me I can't really shoot around him. I'd need to flank him. Getting a DoT on him would be nice, but even if you get it, and retreat, he runs after you and still endlessly blasts his eridium weapon. He chases you. You'd basically have to use the central pillar and hit him with DoT, then circle around him to let him bleed damage, then move in again, and rinse and repeat for that strategy to work, and sure, it can, its sound, but that takes forever lol.
I did use those multi-strike grenades. Those were nice. Damaged him quite a bit, but still couldn't finish him off. 3 tosses only got him down 1/2 health because he's sponge lol.
As for the specific containers, I know the ones you're talking about. They dropped pistols. I started quit-reloading. more pistols and shotguns. I did it over and over. nothing but pistols and shotguns. I get an occasional assault rifle. I found a single sniper rifle and that was basically it.
And it happens on other classes. I played on Axton. I kept getting sniper rifles instead of assault rifles. Whatever class I'm on, I never get the gun I need. It feels like its scripted in such a way to FORCE players to co op to get gear for their friends and then switch them up, and get good loot that way, but if that's the way they've favored the programming its a terrible idea lol.
The problem still stands though:
Doc Mercy is a spongue, soaks so much damage, takes so much effort to get around him, and you get hit with several blasts of his gun, which melts your shield and health just so you can get a little damage off and watch him bleed.
I dragged out a level 9 mule and set him to the two machines in Sanctuary, and the one in Three Horns.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1781515765
11 Snipers, ranging from level 7 to 9. Two of them are Fire.
2 Assault Rifles, both Torgues.
3 SMGs, a Bandit and two Hyperions.
Yes, there were 7 Shotguns, but one is a nice Torgue bangstick and one is a nice Jacobs Coach-gun.
Only one pistol.
That's just one pass at those three machines.
Yep, those are exactly the bits I'm talking about. Aim at those. Depending on your gaming experience, you may find targeting those bits challenging, but it is a skill set you should be practicing, Doc Mercy isn't the only Nomad you'll face. His grenades and his E-tech weapon make him more dangerous than many, but they all have shields.
That's what Decepti0n is for. Decepti0n will allow you to break contact. Doc Mercy won't follow you endlessly, I've personally never seen him leave the cave.
MIRVs are okay, but in this case, a Singularity Grenade mod would be more useful. However, those are likely to be rare at your level.
I don't like to use these maps myself, because I like being surprised, but they are good resources if you're stuck.
Southern Shelf - Bay: https://imgur.com/OnEazUh
Three Horns Divide: https://imgur.com/HBfIMSt
Master list: https://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/t/borderlands-2-o-t-d-h-loot-maps/38103
Honestly, I've never experienced that. But ... even if you are, what's stopping you from buying some guns with Axton and passing them over to Zer0 via Claptrap's Stash?
He's there to learn from. Yeah, he's a tough fight at the level you first meet him, and yeah, your gear is likely to be a little weak at that point. Explore Three Horns Divide more. Or maybe do Assassinate The Assassins first.
short fuse time is best. 1.2 ish or less.
lobbed or longbow also best