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tkhvu1236 Oct 3, 2017 @ 7:44am
pearls
what are the chances to get them from world drops
tinder snowflake
and legendry loot midgets?
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Coyote Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:12am 
The more things you open, the more of a chance you'll get a loot midget. Which in turn will give you a chance at a pearl.
However, a majority of the pearls either suck or are niche.
Lord Cyphre Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:28am 
Regarding LLMs:

"The loot midgets have 2 main loot pools :
- one containing all the ancient artifacts (Pool_Artifacts_Ancient_All) with a 50% drop rate,
- the legendaries + first set of pearl (Pool_All_LegendaryPlusPearl_MinLevel51) with 15% drop rate.
The second pool contains :
- legendary gear pool (Pool_GunsAndGear_06_Legendary) with a 100 weight
- and the first 8 pearl weapons pool (Pool_Weapons_All_07_Pearl) with a 10 weight.
So if this pool is triggered, then the drop should be legendary gear with a 91% probability or a pearl weapon with a 9% probability.
Some of the items (artifacts and pearls) have minimum level requirements."




Tubbies have the best chances of dropping Pearls if you are playing OP levels:

"The tubbies have also 2 main pools :
- one containing legendaries (Pool_ChubbieUniques) with a 100% drop rate
- one containing the 12 pearlescent weapons (Pool_Lobelia_Pearlescent_Weapons_All) with a variable drop rate
The first pool contains :
- 4 legendary / unique items (WTF, Bunny and CrackedSash), with a 100 weight
- a customization item, with a 100 weight
- all the non vanilla legendary class mods (Pool_ClassMod_Lobelia_All) with a 1600 weight.
So there's 76% chance to get one of the class mod and 5% to get one of the other item.
The second pool is interesting because the drop rate associated (Weight_Lobelia_Pearlescent_Tubbies) depends on the op level :
- op0 and below : 1.00%
- op1 : 1.49%
- op2 : 2.17%
- op3 : 3.12%
- op4 : 4.54%
- op5 : 6.66%
- op6 : 9.09%
- op7 : 14.28%
- op8 : 20.00%
Some of the items (class mods and pearls) have minimum level requirements."


Source:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/49520/discussions/0/135511027323028675/
Last edited by Lord Cyphre; Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:30am
Diogenes49 Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
Regarding LLMs:

"The loot midgets have 2 main loot pools :
- one containing all the ancient artifacts (Pool_Artifacts_Ancient_All) with a 50% drop rate,
- the legendaries + first set of pearl (Pool_All_LegendaryPlusPearl_MinLevel51) with 15% drop rate.
The second pool contains :
- legendary gear pool (Pool_GunsAndGear_06_Legendary) with a 100 weight
- and the first 8 pearl weapons pool (Pool_Weapons_All_07_Pearl) with a 10 weight.
So if this pool is triggered, then the drop should be legendary gear with a 91% probability or a pearl weapon with a 9% probability.
Some of the items (artifacts and pearls) have minimum level requirements."




Tubbies have the best chances of dropping Pearls if you are playing OP levels:

"The tubbies have also 2 main pools :
- one containing legendaries (Pool_ChubbieUniques) with a 100% drop rate
- one containing the 12 pearlescent weapons (Pool_Lobelia_Pearlescent_Weapons_All) with a variable drop rate
The first pool contains :
- 4 legendary / unique items (WTF, Bunny and CrackedSash), with a 100 weight
- a customization item, with a 100 weight
- all the non vanilla legendary class mods (Pool_ClassMod_Lobelia_All) with a 1600 weight.
So there's 76% chance to get one of the class mod and 5% to get one of the other item.
The second pool is interesting because the drop rate associated (Weight_Lobelia_Pearlescent_Tubbies) depends on the op level :
- op0 and below : 1.00%
- op1 : 1.49%
- op2 : 2.17%
- op3 : 3.12%
- op4 : 4.54%
- op5 : 6.66%
- op6 : 9.09%
- op7 : 14.28%
- op8 : 20.00%
Some of the items (class mods and pearls) have minimum level requirements."


Source:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/49520/discussions/0/135511027323028675/
I am going to savce this info
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
Regarding LLMs:

"The loot midgets have 2 main loot pools :
- one containing all the ancient artifacts (Pool_Artifacts_Ancient_All) with a 50% drop rate,
- the legendaries + first set of pearl (Pool_All_LegendaryPlusPearl_MinLevel51) with 15% drop rate.
The second pool contains :
- legendary gear pool (Pool_GunsAndGear_06_Legendary) with a 100 weight
- and the first 8 pearl weapons pool (Pool_Weapons_All_07_Pearl) with a 10 weight.
So if this pool is triggered, then the drop should be legendary gear with a 91% probability or a pearl weapon with a 9% probability.
Some of the items (artifacts and pearls) have minimum level requirements."




Tubbies have the best chances of dropping Pearls if you are playing OP levels:

"The tubbies have also 2 main pools :
- one containing legendaries (Pool_ChubbieUniques) with a 100% drop rate
- one containing the 12 pearlescent weapons (Pool_Lobelia_Pearlescent_Weapons_All) with a variable drop rate
The first pool contains :
- 4 legendary / unique items (WTF, Bunny and CrackedSash), with a 100 weight
- a customization item, with a 100 weight
- all the non vanilla legendary class mods (Pool_ClassMod_Lobelia_All) with a 1600 weight.
So there's 76% chance to get one of the class mod and 5% to get one of the other item.
The second pool is interesting because the drop rate associated (Weight_Lobelia_Pearlescent_Tubbies) depends on the op level :
- op0 and below : 1.00%
- op1 : 1.49%
- op2 : 2.17%
- op3 : 3.12%
- op4 : 4.54%
- op5 : 6.66%
- op6 : 9.09%
- op7 : 14.28%
- op8 : 20.00%
Some of the items (class mods and pearls) have minimum level requirements."


Source:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/49520/discussions/0/135511027323028675/

Good info.
Zen_Disaster Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:18pm 
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
"... Tubbies have the best chances of dropping Pearls if you are playing OP levels ... Some pearls have minimum level requirements."
@LC ... also OMGWTH? ... if killed @ OP8 I believe it has 100% chance to drop from the original eight? PS @ anyone interested the final four were unlocked @ levels 61+ if you have UMVH#2 installed, they're only dropped by lvl 61+ random tubbies & include Bekah, Godfinger, Wanderlust, Carnage :steamhappy:
Last edited by Zen_Disaster; Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:22pm
Lord Cyphre Oct 3, 2017 @ 8:21pm 
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
"... Tubbies have the best chances of dropping Pearls if you are playing OP levels ... Some pearls have minimum level requirements."
@LC ... also OMGWTH? ... if killed @ OP8 I believe it has 100% chance to drop the original eight? PS @ anyone interested the final four were unlocked @ levels 61+ if you have UMVH#2 installed, they're only dropped by lvl 61+ random tubbies & include Bekah, Godfinger, Wanderlust, Carnage :steamhappy:

Yes, that's right, I totally forgot about OMGWTH.
Diogenes49 Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:43am 
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
"... Tubbies have the best chances of dropping Pearls if you are playing OP levels ... Some pearls have minimum level requirements."
@LC ... also OMGWTH? ... if killed @ OP8 I believe it has 100% chance to drop from the original eight? PS @ anyone interested the final four were unlocked @ levels 61+ if you have UMVH#2 installed, they're only dropped by lvl 61+ random tubbies & include Bekah, Godfinger, Wanderlust, Carnage :steamhappy:
the omgwth has not worked for me I have killed him a number of times with other people at op8 and he has dropped purples at best
Lord Cyphre Oct 4, 2017 @ 6:46am 
Originally posted by Diogenes49:
the omgwth has not worked for me I have killed him a number of times with other people at op8 and he has dropped purples at best

You must have overlooked it then. He's guaranteed to drop a gen1 pearl at OP8 and I never had a run without one.
dontu_worry Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
Originally posted by Diogenes49:
the omgwth has not worked for me I have killed him a number of times with other people at op8 and he has dropped purples at best

You must have overlooked it then. He's guaranteed to drop a gen1 pearl at OP8 and I never had a run without one.

Same here. Too bad he only drops gen1 pearls or he would be the "easy" way to get a bekah. The butcher is nice, tho.
Zen_Disaster Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:43am 
Originally posted by Diogenes49:
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
@LC ... also OMGWTH? ... if killed @ OP8 I believe it has 100% chance to drop from the original eight? PS @ anyone interested the final four were unlocked @ levels 61+ if you have UMVH#2 installed, they're only dropped by lvl 61+ random tubbies & include Bekah, Godfinger, Wanderlust, Carnage :steamhappy:
the omgwth has not worked for me I have killed him a number of times with other people at op8 and he has dropped purples at best
Uh huh that's RNG for you - she can be a demanding mistress - @ OP8 keep trying OMGWTH & you will surely get a 1st generation pearl or more in time. I promise. :steamhappy:
Last edited by Zen_Disaster; Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:44am
Zen_Disaster Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:46am 
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
Originally posted by Diogenes49:
the omgwth has not worked for me I have killed him a number of times with other people at op8 and he has dropped purples at best

You must have overlooked it then. He's guaranteed to drop a gen1 pearl at OP8 and I never had a run without one.
^Ditto for me ;) Note to the OP we're taking your statement at face value and trying to be helpful to you - LC maybe implying a nasty fact about BL2's "drops into the snow" such as OMGWTH's namely that they can tend to disappear somewhat or all the way into the snow and become more difficult to locate than normal ground condition drops.
Last edited by Zen_Disaster; Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:51am
dontu_worry Oct 4, 2017 @ 10:07am 
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Originally posted by Diogenes49:
the omgwth has not worked for me I have killed him a number of times with other people at op8 and he has dropped purples at best
Uh huh that's RNG for you - she can be a demanding mistress - @ OP8 keep trying OMGWTH & you will surely get a 1st generation pearl or more in time. I promise. :steamhappy:

Its not RNG. He is mistaken about what OP run he is doing, something is wrong with his game (unlikely), or he is overlooking the dropped pearl. RNG does not apply when the game's coding assigns a 100% chance of a gen 1 pearl. I have done quite a few OP8 runs and have always had a gen 1 drop.
Last edited by dontu_worry; Oct 4, 2017 @ 10:07am
Diogenes49 Oct 4, 2017 @ 10:34am 
Originally posted by dontu_worry:
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Uh huh that's RNG for you - she can be a demanding mistress - @ OP8 keep trying OMGWTH & you will surely get a 1st generation pearl or more in time. I promise. :steamhappy:

Its not RNG. He is mistaken about what OP run he is doing, something is wrong with his game (unlikely), or he is overlooking the dropped pearl. RNG does not apply when the game's coding assigns a 100% chance of a gen 1 pearl. I have done quite a few OP8 runs and have always had a gen 1 drop.
let's get together sometime and try an op8 peak run and see what happens

https://www.reddit.com/r/Borderlands2/comments/20zh8b/omgwth_farming/
Zen_Disaster Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:15pm 
Originally posted by dontu_worry:
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Uh huh that's RNG for you - she can be a demanding mistress - @ OP8 keep trying OMGWTH & you will surely get a 1st generation pearl or more in time. I promise. :steamhappy:

Its not RNG. He is mistaken about what OP run he is doing, something is wrong with his game (unlikely), or he is overlooking the dropped pearl. RNG does not apply when the game's coding assigns a 100% chance of a gen 1 pearl. I have done quite a few OP8 runs and have always had a gen 1 drop.

Reread my more current comment #11 more carefully - it qualified & fleshed out the point made in my original comment #10 which was ironically the same as your's namely that "you will surely get a 1st gen pearl in time. I guarantee it." For yr convenience the qualifier concerned the frequently overlooked mechanical issue ... "OP we're taking your statement at face value trying to be helpful - LC maybe implying a nasty fact about BL2's "drops into the snow" such as OMGWTH's namely that they can tend to disappear somewhat or all the way into the snow and become even more difficult to locate than normal ground condition drops." As you can see, you & I have no differences on this.
Last edited by Zen_Disaster; Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:18pm
dontu_worry Oct 4, 2017 @ 9:26pm 
Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:
Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Its not RNG. He is mistaken about what OP run he is doing, something is wrong with his game (unlikely), or he is overlooking the dropped pearl. RNG does not apply when the game's coding assigns a 100% chance of a gen 1 pearl. I have done quite a few OP8 runs and have always had a gen 1 drop.

Reread my more current comment #11 more carefully - it qualified & fleshed out the point made in my original comment #10 which was ironically the same as your's namely that "you will surely get a 1st gen pearl in time. I guarantee it." For yr convenience the qualifier concerned the frequently overlooked mechanical issue ... "OP we're taking your statement at face value trying to be helpful - LC maybe implying a nasty fact about BL2's "drops into the snow" such as OMGWTH's namely that they can tend to disappear somewhat or all the way into the snow and become even more difficult to locate than normal ground condition drops." As you can see, you & I have no differences on this.

Personally, I have never had difficulty finding the pearl, and that is a fairly large sample, so I did not even allow for this possibility. If you say so (no sarcasm).
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