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Hovercraft Oct 1, 2017 @ 3:31am
Drop rates, any way to improve them?
As title, either my RNG is broken or something affecting my drop rate as I haven't got a legendary in a very long while. Playing as Gaige OP6.

For example I was farming warrior all day long for a conference call and never got it.

Yes, I did test run Terramorphous and yes it dropped a single legendary health relic.
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Sirius Oct 1, 2017 @ 3:40am 
Well, there is always Cheat Engine.
If I remember correctly, "Rick's BL2 Table" or whatsitcalled does have scripts to raise / lower drop rates for well, everything.

No I'm not advocating using it. But if you are desperate / have other real life reasons not to spend hours farming for nothing, there's worse ways to get around it (begging on the forums, asking for gibbed/duped items)

So you could use it to slightly raise the drop rates - no one forces you to go nuts with the values or to use any of the other available scripts. If you can handle the moral dilemma of all those shiny tools but only really wanting to use that one to tweak some values a little bit, then go right ahead.

Or, be badass and farm on. It's just a run of bad luck.
Last edited by Sirius; Oct 1, 2017 @ 3:43am
Lord Cyphre Oct 1, 2017 @ 3:41am 
I'm sure you can increase droprates with Cheat Engine. You could also use the save editor to create whatever item you want with a few clicks if you don't want to farm.

With that out of the way, the Warrior has a very crowded lootpool hence why it is so hard to get a Conference Call to drop from him.
The Handsome Sorcerer shares the same lootpool but seems to drop legendaries more frequently.
Try farming him for a while.
trukr Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:17am 
I have never bothered to check, but I have heard conflicting reports on the four player slider improving drop rates.
Lord Cyphre Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by trukr:
I have never bothered to check, but I have heard conflicting reports on the four player slider improving drop rates.

Playercount doesn't affect droprates.
Last edited by Lord Cyphre; Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:27am
trukr Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:29am 
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
Originally posted by trukr:
I have never bothered to check, but I have heard conflicting reports on the four player slider improving drop rates.

Playercount doesn't increase droprates.

OK, cool. I don't even remember who said it did, may have been the little loading screen thing saying something about playing with your friends to get better loot. And that may be about having more badasses etc, don't really know.
Lord Cyphre Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:36am 
Originally posted by trukr:

OK, cool. I don't even remember who said it did, may have been the little loading screen thing saying something about playing with your friends to get better loot. And that may be about having more badasses etc, don't really know.

Yes, the tooltip is referring to the increased enemy count and badass spawns while playing coop.
It's explained more detailed in this article for anyone interested:

http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/2013/09/inside-the-box-the-borderlands-2-loot-system/

This thread provides some more useful info on droprates among other things:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/49520/discussions/0/135511027323028675/

"The main drop rates values are given by 2 constants :
- DropODDS_BossUniques = 10% which is generally used for the legendaries pool,
- and DropODDS_BossUniqueRares = 33% which is used for the uniques pool.
These values are constant across all playthroughs.
The DropODDS_BossUniqueRares is used for example by the Bulwark (Rough Rider), the Sheriff of Lynchwood (Sheriff's Badge or Law) and OOO (Twister)."
Last edited by Lord Cyphre; Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:39am
R3DRuM.CDN Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:40am 
beat the first Borderlands and get a 5% Loot drop that's about it don't be a cheating douche like the rest of these idiots
trukr Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:40am 
Originally posted by Lord Cyphre:
Originally posted by trukr:

OK, cool. I don't even remember who said it did, may have been the little loading screen thing saying something about playing with your friends to get better loot. And that may be about having more badasses etc, don't really know.

Yes, the tooltip is referrign to the increased enemy count and badass spawns while playing coop.
It's explained more detailed in this article for anyone interested:

http://www.gearboxsoftware.com/2013/09/inside-the-box-the-borderlands-2-loot-system/

This thread provides some more useful info on droprates among other things:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/49520/discussions/0/135511027323028675/

"The main drop rates values are given by 2 constants :
- DropODDS_BossUniques = 10% which is generally used for the legendaries pool,
- and DropODDS_BossUniqueRares = 33% which is used for the uniques pool.
These values are constant across all playthroughs.
The DropODDS_BossUniqueRares is used for example by the Bulwark (Rough Rider), the Sheriff of Lynchwood (Sheriff's Badge or Law) and OOO (Twister)." [i/] [/quote]

Cool, I feel smarterer now, thanks for the information :claptrap:
Hovercraft Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:41am 
So far the only thing that supposed to help is the vault hunter relic I have in the bank from somwhere. That gives +5%...
Lord Cyphre Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:43am 
Originally posted by Hovercraft:
So far the only thing that supposed to help is the vault hunter relic I have in the bank from somwhere. That gives +5%...

It does bugger all. Check the Wiki for more detailed info:

http://borderlands.wikia.com/wiki/Vault_Hunter%27s_Relic
Last edited by Lord Cyphre; Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:48am
trukr Oct 1, 2017 @ 4:46am 
Originally posted by Hovercraft:
So far the only thing that supposed to help is the vault hunter relic I have in the bank from somwhere. That gives +5%...

I THINK that only helps things not be white so often, more greens and maybe blues.
CHangWOlf Oct 1, 2017 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by Hovercraft:
As title, either my RNG is broken or something affecting my drop rate as I haven't got a legendary in a very long while. Playing as Gaige OP6.

For example I was farming warrior all day long for a conference call and never got it.

Yes, I did test run Terramorphous and yes it dropped a single legendary health relic.
Farming the warrior isn’t the best thing to do as the only time he frequently drops legendaries is when you kill him during the story. If you want a conference call, farm the handsome sorcerer. I’ve gotten about 4 conference calls from him in about an hour and a half
Originally posted by R3DRuM.CDN:
beat the first Borderlands and get a 5% Loot drop that's about it don't be a cheating douche like the rest of these idiots
Your opinion was very (not) welcome, ty.

No one right now forces OP to use CE 'n stuff.
Sirius Oct 1, 2017 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by CommanderDouchebag:
Originally posted by R3DRuM.CDN:
beat the first Borderlands and get a 5% Loot drop that's about it don't be a cheating douche like the rest of these idiots
Your opinion was very (not) welcome, ty.

No one right now forces OP to use CE 'n stuff.
Exactly.
It was merely the suggested "easy solution" for a game full of people doing nothing but using that crap anyway.
It's pretty different, raising the loot drops a bit for yourself only because reasons or just gibbing the "best", "perfect part" shinies and entering other people's games with that, getting bored and dropping 50+ orange items + possibly using CE becuz ammo and health godmode.

We just have accepted these tools as fact. That doesn't mean we go nuts with them when we use them, or that we even use them at all.
Last edited by Sirius; Oct 1, 2017 @ 7:25am
Hovercraft Oct 2, 2017 @ 12:23am 
I am not interested in cheating.
I simply hit a brick wall at OP6 (trying to get through all OP levels), and was interested if there is a way (within the game mechanics) to get a better drop rate.
I spent all afternoon (about 3 hours) on the sorcerer and only got two leaches in legendary. Something is really up, statistics is against me.

I think the reason why there are so many people cheating is that the drop rate is so low it makes the game very tedious.

Don't get me wrong, I think this game is one, if not the best game (subjectively of course, as I spent ~1900 hours on it), but come on, developers should reward better OP level players.

In those ~1900 hours of game play I only got two pearlescent guns. BTW none of those guns came from Tubbies, (it was from badass marauder and some other random enemy).

Once I start using cheat engine it just opens pandora's box.
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