Should i farm for the hive

[NinjaTank4466]

i just made this because i got a creamer and im not sure which one is better

[Lord Cyphre]

Creamer is a whole lot better. It deals more damage and heals you. It has a bit of learning curve though, because the rockets split up. You want to have the right distance to get the most out of it.

The Hive's gimmick makes it highly impractical outside of some exploits. It's also very ammo inefficient.

[Beverage™]

Go for a norfleet, pain in the ass to farm for. But totally worth it imo

[NinjaTank4466]

i already got a norfleet and i just got the creamer because im playing my siren i just made like a week ago

[Zen_Disaster]

Originally posted by NinjaDoge2017:

i just made this because i got a creamer and im not sure which one is better

Both RL's are expensive but in different ways. Hive (corrosive only) not only has the slowest reload speed of any gun in the game (up to 11) but eats 4 ammo per shot & is ridiculously complicated to use correctly - if you must use it, try to get one with the Pertinent prefix. Creamer (explosive only) is a more generally useful gun w/ Moxxi Signature benefits for those that favor RLs though it's far from the game's best - its main cost is that it's the mission reward for Creature Slaughter: Round 5 which means that getting a Creamer means saying goodbye to CSD as an excellent source to farm good gear. I wouldn't waste my time farming the Hive - the Creamer's better anyway. I don't favor RLs in general but many of my friends who do favor 3 good ones that can be useful at the game's highest levels: Tunguska, Nukem, Badaboom.

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by Zen_Disaster:

Creamer (explosive only) is a more generally useful gun w/ Moxxi Signature benefits for those that favor RLs though it's far from the game's best.

It's the second best RL available in terms of DPS according to Bahroo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mih7JoYtrLI

I don't use Launchers much myself but it [i[is[/i] pretty dang powerful if you find the sweet spot.

[Zen_Disaster]

I'm not influenced by what Bahroo has to say - my friends & I are pretty much our own best guide for what works best for us. As mentioned, at game max lvl we've owned & extensively trialled all the game's unique, legendary & pearl RLs and it boils down to the three I mentioned as best in class for us. Personally, my maxed Maya specced into Accelerate & Zer0 specced into Vel0city only find an OP8 Tunguska & Nukem worth keeping but that's me.

The Nukem rocket arc is easy to forecast & consistent with only a little practice & it has some very cool features like killing enemies around corners. The Tunguska can kill the unpracticed shooter & its rocket behavior after impact takes some practice to get used to. Like the Nukem the Tunguska's impact is forecastable, it's element is explosive which I prefer in RLs & its effect is massive & devestating.

I can be more specific about why I find the Creamer a good gun but still not in that top league - even though its stats are good for a RL, the Creamer doesn't shoot straight & that just doesn't work for me - when the Creamer shoots a rocket, it breaks pretty far away into two projectiles whose paths I can't influence no matter how I try adjusting my style to suit the gun.

It's all personal is all I'm really saying lol (y)

[Lord Cyphre]

Of course it comes down to personal prefernece and people should play around with different items themselves to find out what works best for them.

I myself find it easier to mange the split of the Creamer compared to the Nukems and especially the Tunguskas splash radius.
The additional life steal is the icing on the cake.

Again, i agree, personal opinion. It's just hard to say the Creamer is far from the best when it can easily be one of the best launchers in the right hands though.