Zer0 with The Bee

[Szun]

quick qustion i never played ng+ and rest till i buyed game i want to start and the question is i am playing zer0 in middle tree with jakobs/vladaf pistols is it worth to use the bee i am asking because diffrence in my health and shield is so hight about 20000

[HiTmAn]

antagonist is better cz its slag enemies too be is more for raid bosses cz wen enemy hit u shield u no doing any bonus dmg and protection is very bad....farm seraph crystals once u hit lvl 72 then go in tina dlc... farm for antagoinst with 880% deflection chance that is only one u wish and its best variant...check seraph if dont have that one u wish save exit laod again its take 15-30 min to get it

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

Zer0 does not need amp damage since he has a lot of skills that boost damage. With that said, if you have a bee drop, go ahead and use it on occasion.

I think in most cases you are better just using a turtle or roid shield.

[Lord Cyphre]

Originally posted by C2H5SH:

Zer0 does not need amp damage since he has a lot of skills that boost damage. With that said, if you have a bee drop, go ahead and use it on occasion.

I think in most cases you are better just using a turtle or roid shield.

What he said.
With decent gear, slag + consecutive crits and a solid spec no character really needs the Bee outside of tougher (Raid-) bossfights or to optimize the time spent farming.

It adds a great amount of damage as long as it is fully charged but it sucks in protecting you.
The huge amount of amp damage added can also really blur your vision on how good different weapons truly are and how efficient your skill point distribution is.

[joe]

The bee is just broken as ♥♥♥♥, pretty much good on anyone, you can't really argue with the damage potential.

[Szun]

Originally posted by Joe|ZazZ's Accomplice:

The bee is just broken as ♥♥♥♥, pretty much good on anyone, you can't really argue with the damage potential.

yes the dmg is very hight with it but my shield getting deplieted for single shot or psycho buzzaxe
and after it its useless

[trukr]

Originally posted by Joe|ZazZ's Accomplice:

The bee is just broken as ♥♥♥♥, pretty much good on anyone, you can't really argue with the damage potential.

No, it's not. Something so much as breaths on you and your amp is gone with the wind, that you just broke. It has a long recharge delay and something around a joke for protection. Yes, works as it was meant to. Don't get hit and it is good though, now to not get hit is the issue and that is not easy.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by trukr:

Originally posted by Joe|ZazZ's Accomplice:

The bee is just broken as ♥♥♥♥, pretty much good on anyone, you can't really argue with the damage potential.

No, it's not. Something so much as breaths on you and your amp is gone with the wind, that you just broke. It has a long recharge delay and something around a joke for protection. Yes, works as it was meant to. Don't get hit and it is good though, now to not get hit is the issue and that is not easy.

breaths or farts? =P

[trukr]

Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:

Originally posted by trukr:

No, it's not. Something so much as breaths on you and your amp is gone with the wind, that you just broke. It has a long recharge delay and something around a joke for protection. Yes, works as it was meant to. Don't get hit and it is good though, now to not get hit is the issue and that is not easy.

breaths or farts? =P

FARTS! Breaking wind is farting.....

[joe]

Originally posted by trukr:

Originally posted by Joe|ZazZ's Accomplice:

The bee is just broken as ♥♥♥♥, pretty much good on anyone, you can't really argue with the damage potential.

No, it's not. Something so much as breaths on you and your amp is gone with the wind, that you just broke. It has a long recharge delay and something around a joke for protection. Yes, works as it was meant to. Don't get hit and it is good though, now to not get hit is the issue and that is not easy.

Nah, Bee is pretty broken, man, I get that it depletes usually after 1-2 hits, but I'm sure that they didn't expect people to abuse it to the extent that it did, especially with the broken as ♥♥♥♥ scaling in OP levels.

[AnkleBones]

One thing you guys are missing is Zero in a bandit vehicle using the Bee.

[trukr]

Originally posted by Joe|ZazZ's Accomplice:

Originally posted by trukr:

No, it's not. Something so much as breaths on you and your amp is gone with the wind, that you just broke. It has a long recharge delay and something around a joke for protection. Yes, works as it was meant to. Don't get hit and it is good though, now to not get hit is the issue and that is not easy.

Nah, Bee is pretty broken, man, I get that it depletes usually after 1-2 hits, but I'm sure that they didn't expect people to abuse it to the extent that it did, especially with the broken as ♥♥♥♥ scaling in OP levels.

Saying it is broken means nothing. Depleted is not the issue, if you are missing ONE point from the capacity the amp damage is gone, then you get the long wait for recharge, if you get hit again during that wait you start over with the wait. It also has low capacity, there is the trade off of having strong damage and being weak on protection

UVHM broken scaling, what in UVHM does not have broken scaling, they said it would be broken when people asked for it to be added, and it ended up that many liked it, mostly. So, your statement is just someone saying something.

Originally posted by AnkleBones:

One thing you guys are missing is Zero in a bandit vehicle using the Bee.

I would say any of them in a runner, two guns with amp. In a vehicle taking damage does not take away the amp damage.

[Mister Torgue Flexington]

Originally posted by trukr:

Originally posted by Mister Torgue Flexington:

breaths or farts? =P

FARTS! Breaking wind is farting..... :claugh:

aiyah

[Bunkyguy]

Very much depends how you use the Bee.
As Zero the Bee can be used in a very effective manner at the distance. Once you get closer to the enemy you must switch to the Antagonist.
Very much depends on the situation.