Unkempt Harold, or just accuracy (shot spread) help in general...

[Bretherezen]

So, getting back in to Borderlands 2 after all this while, as a Salvador player - somebody I haven't played before, being almost exclusively a Zero player back before I quit... Anyhow, watching this video (in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtGfHeLn6o4 ) and around the 1m40sec time of the video, he switches to an Unkempt Harold, and is also wielding a Grog Nozzle.

I do not remember ever seeing an Unkempt Harold with such accuracy before, his targeting reticle is about as small as it can get, and it barely recoils at all when he is shooting it off. More to my amazement, when Grog Nozzle activates, his Unkempt Harold suffers absolutely no accuracy penalty... How is this? I don't get it, can somebody explain to me how this guy is so accurate? Please and thank you.

[Demo Dan]

salvador has a skill which increases his accurasy by 80 percent in dual wield.
maybe it´s that

[Bretherezen]

Originally posted by Dan:

salvador has a skill which increases his accurasy by 80 percent in dual wield.
maybe it´s that

80%? I don't see anything like that on my Sal's skill tree... Not that high anyhow, unless you mean "Steady As She Goes" which does 80% recoil reduction while Gunzerking, and a chance otherwise to increase accuracy by 30%? Is it THAT huge of a difference??

[Bear]

The crosshairs going wide is the recoil, which you mentioned in the first post, so Steady as She Goes would indeed have a significant impact on that.

The Herold isn't that wildly innacurate at short-to-medium range, especially for a Torgue weapon, and assuming SSG procs for the 30 percent bonus it won't go too wide. As well, I notice he's using a Hard UH, which means it's not getting the decreased accuracy from the Double Penetrating prefix. At that distance, hitting the black holed targets wouldn't be too hard.

[Bretherezen]

Originally posted by Litwick:

The crosshairs going wide is the recoil, which you mentioned in the first post, so Steady as She Goes would indeed have a significant impact on that.

The Herold isn't that wildly innacurate at short-to-medium range, especially for a Torgue weapon, and assuming SSG procs for the 30 percent bonus it won't go too wide. As well, I notice he's using a Hard UH, which means it's not getting the decreased accuracy from the Double Penetrating prefix. At that distance, hitting the black holed targets wouldn't be too hard.

I see. And what of the Grog Nozzle's drunken effect not affecting his reticle accuracy whatsoever? He retains the absolute same amount of spread the entire time until he spam fires 3-4 rounds swiftly (as we all know Sal is capable of doing.) If I were to use a Grog Nozzle right now, my reticle would shoot outwardly for my UH and as a result, aiming become a real issue for smaller targets that aren't being blindly hit by the spamfire of Grog+UH. How is his reticle so very tiny all the time, is mainly what I am trying to understand here.

[Bear]

I'm not an expert at Sal unfortunately and don't make much use of the Grog so I can't answer those questions for sure. Sorry!

[Bretherezen]

Originally posted by Litwick:

I'm not an expert at Sal unfortunately and don't make much use of the Grog so I can't answer those questions for sure. Sorry!

No problems there, thanks for the assistance though! Every bit helps. :P

[Zen_Disaster]

Originally posted by Bretherezen:

So, getting back in to Borderlands 2 after all this while, as a Salvador player - somebody I haven't played before, being almost exclusively a Zero player back before I quit... Anyhow, watching this video ... and around the 1m40sec time of the video, he switches to an Unkempt Harold and a Grog ...

I do not remember ever seeing an Unkempt Harold with such accuracy before, his targeting reticle is about as small as it can get, and it barely recoils at all when he is shooting it off. More to my amazement, when Grog Nozzle activates, his Unkempt Harold suffers absolutely no accuracy penalty... How is this? I don't get it, can somebody explain to me how this guy is so accurate? Please and thank you.

Yes I believe I can explain it. Shadow shows (and tells) us at the very start of the vid that he's modded the gear and the game by the installation of third-party software such as Gibbed and or Cheat Engine and or etc etc. This results in gear & situations that do not naturally occur in the Gearbox game.

Look at the weapons he demo's at the beginning of the vid and listen to his descriptions - he does not say "here is the Harold [or Grog]" - he clearly says "this replaces a Harold etc etc". Carefully inspect his game cards red text - these arms and text do not naturally occur in the Gearbox game - he has created (modded) them himself with third party software.

He also states clearly this sort of game is not for less experienced BL2 players. It is strictly to extend the game for the fun and amusement of other highly experienced BL2 players like himself who have been playing the game for many thousands of hours since its release four and a half years ago and are seeking new experiences with BL2 that Gearbox did not and will never provide.

I hope this explanation clarfies the matters that were confusing you about the video. Happy gaming