Are the crimson raiders really the good guys?

[Feli]

lets think about this, they each enjoy killing, Zeds place is filled with blood, nad to most of them its just plain fun kill kill stuff ( which in this game it is ) also in tps starting cutscene Lilith wants to execute athena to just cover up the fact that it was her and moxxi that caused the events of borderlands 2 by betraying jack. anyways leave your thoughts and theories below if you want to :)

[고사리마]

It is about the surviving and revenge. I think that's enough.

[SunDrippedDevil]

Not really. The vault hunters aren't really that saintly either. Everyone on Pandora is scum.

[FULLMEATALVAPIRE]

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

Not really. The vault hunters aren't really that saintly either. Everyone on Pandora is scum.

And off it as well

[Raidden]

Why must we continue discussions about morals in a series that it didnt belong in? And it was done terribly too.

[Zen_Disaster]

Originally posted by Scrub:

Are the crimson raiders really the good guys? lets think about this, they each enjoy killing, Zeds place is filled with blood, nad to most of them its just plain fun kill kill stuff ( which in this game it is ) also in tps starting cutscene Lilith wants to execute athena to just cover up the fact that it was her and moxxi that caused the events of borderlands 2 by betraying jack. anyways leave your thoughts and theories below if you want to :)

No one ever said they're good guys or bad guys. They're just what's left from ex-Vault Hunters and ex-Crimson Lance around Sanctuary. They were originally assembled by Roland in New Haven and fled to Sanctuary trying to defend against Hyperion. They report to Lillith and him. They don't "each enjoy killing" - they kill what they need to kill like when Roland gathered them to defend Sanctuary from the Bloodshot bandits. Did you notice there are no churches or other places of worship in Sanctuary? No matter what some players might want to exist here, it's a good bet ethics, morality and religions aren't too important in BL2.

[eyeC]

omfg, shut up

[Nakos]

Zer0: A sentient of undetermined provenence who sees violence and challenge as a form of artistic expression.
Axton: A guy who cares more about glory, and excitement than he does for following orders.
Salvador: "Killing bandits is fun!"
Gaige: On the run for murder (see also: "Killing bandits is fun!")
Krieg: Literally, a survivor of (some sort of hedious) experiments who's been driven insane and seeks vengence.

Then there's Maya: Maya just wants to find out about her Siren Lineage.

So... yeah, a pretty amoral bunch, at best. Except for Maya, who's at least sort of on the "good" side of morally neutral.

[CSpear]

Totalitarianism = no diversity = no conflict. Handsome Jack was a hero.

[Sirius]

*rolls eyes*

People still arguing about this after so many years?

Short (and serious) answer:

Yes, the Crimson Raiders are the "good guys", at least in comparison to everything else going on on that damned planet.

It's a matter of perspective.

Next to Jack and his shenanigans, Adolf Hitler looks mild-mannered and balanced in comparison.

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by Boomer:

omfg, shut up

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