Rocket Launcher

[Astro_80 (WASH YOUR HANDS!)]

So, I have just found a PBFG Rocket Launcher and apparently it is 'considered' as a mini Norfleet. My question is, is it any good? I normally use a Nukem.

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

yea yea base damage is higher we
also didnt notice difference between the cataclysmic dmg of PBFG and Topneaa the DOT was also barely noticable on OP8 on both launchers

most likely you have Topneaa with worst parts that lower its dmg potential which i'm pretty sure affects cataclysmic effect dmg too

Test on the dummy and see for yourself. Use gibbed for perfect parts if you have to, I'm not touching it.

[Alucard †]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

yea yea base damage is higher we
also didnt notice difference between the cataclysmic dmg of PBFG and Topneaa the DOT was also barely noticable on OP8 on both launchers

most likely you have Topneaa with worst parts that lower its dmg potential which i'm pretty sure affects cataclysmic effect dmg too

Test on the dummy and see for yourself. Use gibbed for perfect parts if you have to, I'm not touching it.

You cant see the cataclysmic dmg numbers so why you suggest testing it on a test dummy?
When i already did it on Torgue personel their hp twitched by a little bit (stopped regenerating) without any elemental effects on them from both launchers it was pretty much the same and i tested this on OP8

Yea it on the dummy to humor you it only displayed the direct dmg + electric elemental /sec

which was like i said the direct dmg was doubled on PBFG but the elemental sec was very similar slightly higher

but PBFG can fire only 2 shots with slow reload and costs 4 rockets
Topnea can fire those 2-3 shots at cost of 1 rocket and those all 3 shots summed have more dmg than PBFG's single shot

Topneaa has 6 mag size + 3 shots (9 total) l
PBFG 4-5 (3 shots total)

Topnea is better in every way to PBFG except the direct shot which is quickly crippled by the weapons poor magazine size / reload and ammo efficiency

DPS favors Topneaa making it superior launcher
i've been using this launcher for long time and i can do comparison test without random factors even use different elements or strip the launchers out of elements to test them in raw
because i have no aversion to using Gibbed

AOE feels identical too but like i said i only did AOE test in Pete's Bar during brawl didnt test it outdoors but still covering entire Bar is great score IMO for both launchers in regards of AOE range .. more aoe than that is just dangerous to user

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

You cant see the cataclysmic dmg numbers so why you suggest testing it on a test dummy?

You can't be serious. Please go fire both launchers in the shooting range and see for yourself.

Also, if you love the Topneaa, good for you. I like the PBFG. Let's stick to facts instead of arguing over preferences.

[Alucard †]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

You can't be serious. Please go fire both launchers in the shooting range and see for yourself.

I did only direct dmg + electrocution showed .. nothing else when weapon didnt trigger elemental effect nothing else but direct dmg was displayed .. want a proof?

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Also, if you love the Topneaa, good for you. I like the PBFG. Let's stick to facts instead of arguing over preferences.

Nothing wrong about preference but dont call it a best non norfleet e tech launcher because that blatantly not true

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

You can't be serious. Please go fire both launchers in the shooting range and see for yourself.

I did only direct dmg + electrocution showed .. nothing else when weapon didnt trigger elemental effect nothing else but direct dmg was displayed .. want a proof?

Shoot the wall and the dummy will show the damage from the cataclysmic sphere.

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Also, if you love the Topneaa, good for you. I like the PBFG. Let's stick to facts instead of arguing over preferences.

Nothing wrong about preference but dont call it a best non norfleet e tech launcher because that blatantly not true

That was my opinion. Everything is an opinion minus what I stated as objective results. There is no "best" launcher in the game that everyone agrees on. Using terms like "blatantly not true" means you're trying to come across as objective.

[Alucard †]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

I did only direct dmg + electrocution showed .. nothing else when weapon didnt trigger elemental effect nothing else but direct dmg was displayed .. want a proof?

Shoot the wall and the dummy will show the damage from the cataclysmic sphere.

Hmmm i shot the wall near dummy and the sphere shown dmg numbers on both weapons as Blue (electrical) but yea the dmg was higher on PBFG

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Shoot the wall and the dummy will show the damage from the cataclysmic sphere.

Hmmm i shot the wall near dummy and the sphere shown dmg numbers on both weapons as Blue (electrical) but yea the dmg was higher on PBFG

Yes. More than double roughly, as I said earlier. That's the cataclysmic damage which gets transferred to every enemy within the radius.

[Alucard †]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

Hmmm i shot the wall near dummy and the sphere shown dmg numbers on both weapons as Blue (electrical) but yea the dmg was higher on PBFG

Yes. More than double roughly, as I said earlier. That's the cataclysmic damage which gets transferred to every enemy within the radius.

I will show you something in an hour or 2
made a video especially for you

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

Yes. More than double roughly, as I said earlier. That's the cataclysmic damage which gets transferred to every enemy within the radius.

I will show you something in an hour or 2
made a video especially for you

Sounds good.

[Alucard †]

There we go: This is why i prefer Topneaa over PBFG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg6OTBxlYzA

Note: this wasnt really a serious test mind you i was just having fun but it shows how i struggled with PBFG in this particular scenario The bar brawl not even blood filled guns and bloodsplosion could help me finish the brawl
while with Topneaa it took minute and half to nuke everything (not as fast as Norfleet but at least i was able to finish it lol)

I couldnt kill things with PBFG as fast as with Topneaa and the 2x higher direct dmg worked to my disadvantage and slow ass reload got me quickly pinned down by badasses to the point i started panicking
(PS i did save and quit before starting each round so the FFYL cooldown would reset but that still wasn't enough to help me)

Also Topneaa is deffinitley more fun to use with Sham its endless rapid firing barrage of plasma balls but you don't have to take this video too seriously :)

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

There we go: This is why i prefer Topneaa over PBFG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg6OTBxlYzA

Note: this wasnt really a serious test mind you i was just having fun but it shows how i struggled with PBFG in this particular scenario The bar brawl not even blood filled guns and bloodsplosion could help me finish the brawl
while with Topneaa it took minute and half to nuke everything (not as fast as Norfleet but at least i was able to finish it lol)

I couldnt kill things with PBFG as fast as with Topneaa and the 2x higher direct dmg worked to my disadvantage and slow ass reload got me quickly pinned down by badasses to the point i started panicking
(PS i did save and quit before starting each round so the FFYL cooldown would reset but that still wasn't enough to help me)

Also Topneaa is deffinitley more fun to use with Sham its endless rapid firing barrage of plasma balls but you don't have to take this video too seriously :)

Interesting video. I'm more of a melee player myself and prefer up-close encounters. I know the Sham ammo regen tactic is widely used with E-techs (specifically Shamfleeting with the Norfleet) but pure melee is more my style and I only use launchers for FFYL. In that scenario it's easier for me to deal damage over a large area in a single shot with the PBFG before finishing things off with the Harold (mainly because I have Strip the Flesh maxed which gives bonus explosive damage in FFYL).

One thing I have to ask though... how did you regain health at the 0:54 mark?

[Alucard †]

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

One thing I have to ask though... how did you regain health at the 0:54 mark?

i have like 2 points in Krieg's "Thrill of the Kill" skill in this build that healed me most of the time since a lot of mobs were dying quickly the skill triggered a lot more often

and yes thats a melee build im having in that video :P just didnt bother to actually use my melee ult instead i just went rampage with Sham + Topneaa

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

Ursprungligen skrivet av Partha Pratim Chatterjee:

One thing I have to ask though... how did you regain health at the 0:54 mark?

i have like 2 points in Krieg's "Thrill of the Kill" skill in this build that healed me most of the time since a lot of mobs were dying quickly the skill triggered a lot more often

and yes thats a melee build im having in that video :P just didnt bother to actually use my melee ult instead i just went rampage with Sham + Topneaa

I see. I use RtB most of the time so I generally don't use the Sham with launchers because my melee skills suffer that way. Of course I know a Gunzerker with the Sham and two Norfleets is what a lot of people consider fun because it is very overpowered.

[Alucard †]

yea on this Krieg im rolling Mania Bloodloust with RR , Health stockpile relic , Legendary Sickle , Chain Lightning for quick heals (while having nozzle equipped) and shield takedowns .. then i just spam RTB and eventually use DP Harold or Carnage for hard stuff since i have points in Strip the Flesh

[CoolingGibbon]

Ursprungligen skrivet av ⎛The Crimson ♥♥♥♥♥♥⎞ ✞:

yea on this Krieg im rolling Mania Bloodloust with RR , Health stockpile relic , Legendary Sickle , Chain Lightning for quick heals (while having nozzle equipped) and shield takedowns .. then i just spam RTB and eventually use DP Harold or Carnage for hard stuff since i have points in Strip the Flesh

Good to know. I use a similar build but without the Nozzle and Chain Lightning. And I use an explosive relic instead.