When to start headhunters?

[Rookie]

For farming reasons I'm abit concered with scalling. Once I reach max level in Normal mode, should I play the headhunter DLCs? I've been told that other DLCs reset with each playthrough but im not sure with headhunter.

[Astro_80 (WASH YOUR HANDS!)]

You can play them whenever you want.

[SunDrippedDevil]

I wouldn't worry so much about farming in Normal Mode. Just focus on levelling, leaning the the ins and outs of your class and learning game mechanics.

The drops don't scale to your level anyways, and you will quickly outlevel anything you sent time farming. Save the farming for UVHM and endgame (where enemies and drops scale to you)

Just play the headhunters for fun.

[shoopy]

I'd recommend farming lvl 50 BNK3R though. The Sham and B!tch help a LOT in UVHM.

[⚡DooM⚡]

Farming isn't needed until you get to UVHM. Once you get there at Lv50, you should farm something like a Bee Shield in Tiny Tina's DLC to give you the boost needed for extra damage. Anything before UVHM, DLC wise, is just a fun way to level boost. Once you hit Lv72, you will want to start raiding the bosses and such with good loot tables so you can prepare for OP levels.

Here are the difficulties and what resets:

Normal Mode - First Difficulty

True Vault Hunter Mode - Every Mission and DLC Resets / Enemy Spawns Change / Loot Table Upgrade

Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode/OP0 - Every Mission and DLC Resets / Enemy Spawns Change / Loot Table Upgrade

OverPowered Levels OP1 to OP8 - Nothing Resets / Enemy Spawns Change / Loot Table Upgrade

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Farming isn't needed until you get to UVHM. Once you get there at Lv50, you should farm something like a Bee Shield in Tiny Tina's DLC to give you the boost needed for extra damage.

Originally posted by slandy:

I'd recommend farming lvl 50 BNK3R though. The Sham and B!tch help a LOT in UVHM.

Be careful doing this. In UVHM, enemies scale to your level, have far larger health pools, and have innate health regen. TVHM gear caps out at 50. It is unwise to enter UVHM after levelling too much beyond 50. You will set yourself up for a bad time with enemies that can be higher levelled than your gear.

You can also elect to rush the TVHM campaign by the late 40s. This is will give you 2 - 3 levels to farm anything that you like and still enter UVHM by 50. This is what I normally do.

[shoopy]

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

Originally posted by Doom1991:

Farming isn't needed until you get to UVHM. Once you get there at Lv50, you should farm something like a Bee Shield in Tiny Tina's DLC to give you the boost needed for extra damage.

Originally posted by slandy:

I'd recommend farming lvl 50 BNK3R though. The Sham and B!tch help a LOT in UVHM.

Be careful doing this. In UVHM, enemies scale to your level, have far larger health pools, and have innate health regen. TVHM gear caps out at 50. It is unwise to enter UVHM after levelling too much beyond 50. You will set yourself up for a bad time with enemies that can be higher levelled than your gear.

You can also elect to rush the TVHM campaign by the late 40s. This is will give you 2 - 3 levels to farm anything that you like and still enter UVHM by 50. This is what I normally do.

I started UVHM at level 53 with a 93% Sham and it isn't hard. I killed Flynt in like 10 seconds and only went down once, and got my second wind by killing Flynt himself with my DPUH.

My Harold and Pimpernels actually one shot enemies fairly often, and the ones I can't oneshot I use the B!tch on and focus down their crit spot and they die in about two or three seconds. With the Sham I can stand around and tank bullets and decide who I want to kill.

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by slandy:

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

Be careful doing this. In UVHM, enemies scale to your level, have far larger health pools, and have innate health regen. TVHM gear caps out at 50. It is unwise to enter UVHM after levelling too much beyond 50. You will set yourself up for a bad time with enemies that can be higher levelled than your gear.

You can also elect to rush the TVHM campaign by the late 40s. This is will give you 2 - 3 levels to farm anything that you like and still enter UVHM by 50. This is what I normally do.

I started UVHM at level 53 with a 93% Sham and it isn't hard. I killed Flynt in like 10 seconds and only went down once, and got my second wind by killing Flynt himself with my DPUH.

My Harold and Pimpernels actually one shot enemies fairly often, and the ones I can't oneshot I use the B!tch on and focus down their crit spot and they die in about two or three seconds. With the Sham I can stand around and tank bullets and decide who I want to kill.

93% shams are not common drops (actually very rare), and most players do not have multiple pimpernels on their first playthrough after TVHM (this would involve either a save editor, getting extra pimpernels from another character/player, or read-only farming the quest), let alone realising their true potential. What you just described is not a common player's experience on their first playthrough of the game.

[shoopy]

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

Originally posted by slandy:

I started UVHM at level 53 with a 93% Sham and it isn't hard. I killed Flynt in like 10 seconds and only went down once, and got my second wind by killing Flynt himself with my DPUH.

My Harold and Pimpernels actually one shot enemies fairly often, and the ones I can't oneshot I use the B!tch on and focus down their crit spot and they die in about two or three seconds. With the Sham I can stand around and tank bullets and decide who I want to kill.

93% shams are not common drops (actually very rare), and most players do not have multiple pimpernels on their first playthourgh, let alone realising their true potential. What you just described is not a common player's exprience on their first playthrough of the game.

Didn't really know that. I play Zer0 and I spent some time one shotting BNK3R. It only took like a few hours to get a 93% Sham and two B!tches.

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by slandy:

Originally posted by SunDrippedDevil:

93% shams are not common drops (actually very rare), and most players do not have multiple pimpernels on their first playthourgh, let alone realising their true potential. What you just described is not a common player's exprience on their first playthrough of the game.

Didn't really know that. I play Zer0 and I spent some time one shotting BNK3R. It only took like a few hours to get a 93% Sham and two B!tches.

You got really lucky, and only Zer0s can farm BNK3R that efficiently.

[Rookie]

Got the infinity pistol in my first try against Doc Macy in playthrough 1 of my second charcter.

[SunDrippedDevil]

Originally posted by 45®Stealy Wheely Automobiley:

Got the infinity pistol in my first try against Doc Macy in playthrough 1 of my second charcter.

You also got lucky. Congrats.

[LightChaosman]

Originally posted by Doom1991:

... Once you get there at Lv50, you should farm something like a Bee Shield in Tiny Tina's DLC to give you the boost needed for extra damage....

Not sure I agree with this.
Sure, using the bee will make the game easier, but it also takes away part of the challenge.
One will become dependant on using the bee, disregarding other options because their damage output is "too low".
On my first toon I found my first harold in a chest @ lv 53, and that was basically the only legendary/unique I used and updated every ... say 10 levels or so, with the rest of my gear being random blue/purple stuff I found, getting to OP5 with said non-optimized gear. (Siren)

Starting your first UVHM with an overly optimized set of gear may make the game less diverse, which would be a shame on a first character.


Having said all that, let me adress the original question:
If you don't mind waiting for the heads, I would recomend to postpone the HH packs to UVHM.
Most people run out of fun/rewarding sidequests to do somewhere in the 60-72 level range.
Keeping them open till then saves you some nice content & gives you some quests + exp to get at high level.
Having said that, you could ofcourse also do them on NVHM/TVHM for the same reason.

[shoopy]

I don't know about you but I always find garbage for random loot. Stuff that I don't even want to use because it handles so bad, either because it can't aim at all, has a stupidly wide spread, has very shallow mags, or takes three years to reload.

I'd use a Law or something before I'd use some of the crap I find. Actually I did use a Law as a regular gun for a while. It's at least fun to shoot because it's so fast and reloads fast.

Edit:
Also seen a lot of guns that are good in theory ruined by low fire rate, that are beaten by faster guns of a lower level and rarity.

[LightChaosman]

That's very unlucky.
"Most" of the stuff I find, even by UVHM, is still usable to some extend for me.
Some examples:
Blue/purple turtle shields will still take a few hits before depleting. Combined with shield skills such as buck up or blood soaked shields, they are quite viable.
Maliwan snipers, especially slag ones, will be usefull, regardless of level.
Relics that suit your build will be usefull.
Jakobs or torgue shotguns with three or four barrels deal a ton of damage, especially at "in your face"-range.
Hyperion shotguns will even deal good damage at a distance, just make sure you match elements. (Something you should always do anyways)

I reckon I could go on like this a bit, the message being that you could probably complete UVHM using only Blue rarity or lower "junk" without all that much trouble, if you were so inclined.

[DreamerDream]

If you have lots of time :) and will to beat this game many times you can do something like this:
Disable on steam two DLC: Ultimate Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 1 and 2 to lock lvl cap to 50lvl.

Now play Normal Mode as you want. You can try beat some dlc but I'm not recomending it because you will get too big lvl (even for some time in True Vault Hunter Mode because it is scaling lvl only after you will beat last mission there). In Normal Mode there isn't any lvl cap for you, but enemy can have max 35lvl :|

True Vault Hunter Mode beat all missions, all DLC, Head Hunters. If I'm not wrong enemy there can have max 50lvl (even with UVHUP dlc).

When you are ready for new game++ enable Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 1.
Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode beat all missions, all DLC, Head Hunters.

When you are ready enable Vault Hunter Upgrade Pack 2 and reset Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode
Ultimate Vault Hunter Mode beat all missions, all DLC, Head Hunters.

When you are ready start doing Digistruct Peak. If you are too weak take som emissions, kill some boss, loot better eq etc.


But as I said. This require lots of time and love for this game to beat it many times ;p