Murderlin's Temple

[Timminat0r]

Is it normal to spend numerous hours and countless deaths in this Magic Slaughter to even finish 1 single run? (Round 1- Badass Round) (UVHM)

[Fredericks of Cursewood]

Probably. I think that I have done it once and that was enough. Other than the chance of getting an Ogre, I could not tell you if there is anything worth the pain.

[Timminat0r]

Originally posted by C2H5SH:

Probably. I think that I have done it once and that was enough. Other than the chance of getting an Ogre, I could not tell you if there is anything worth the pain.

Im trying to get an Ogre right now haha, trying to have more fun than when using a harold, and my swordsplosion is getting underleveled now since im leveling so much here. And im using Axton so why not.

[Zen_Disaster]

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Is it normal to spend numerous hours and countless deaths in this Magic Slaughter to even finish 1 single run? (Round 1- Badass Round) (UVHM)

Yep --- it's one of the game's very few arenas called badass that really means it - have fun

[Zen_Disaster]

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Im trying to get an Ogre right now haha, trying to have more fun than when using a harold, and my swordsplosion is getting underleveled now since im leveling so much here. And im using Axton so why not.

Leveling up Warlord Slog to King of Orcs doesn't increase chances an Ogre will drop. Gun's gotta big bang!

[z00t]

Yes, but if you do let him level up and kill him you will complete the Work, Work, Work challenge. 5 additional BAR or something. Yay! Totally worth it!
Apart from that there is no need to let him level up. He can drop the Ogre at any stage. Usually he doesn't, but can.
The badass round sucks, all things considered. The only way to get an Ogre though.

[Timminat0r]

Originally posted by z00t:

Yes, but if you do let him level up and kill him you will complete the Work, Work, Work challenge. 5 additional BAR or something. Yay! Totally worth it!
Apart from that there is no need to let him level up. He can drop the Ogre at any stage. Usually he doesn't, but can.
The badass round sucks, all things considered. The only way to get an Ogre though.

Roger

[Timminat0r]

Originally posted by Zen_Master:

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Is it normal to spend numerous hours and countless deaths in this Magic Slaughter to even finish 1 single run? (Round 1- Badass Round) (UVHM)

Yep --- it's one of the game's very few arenas called badass that really means it - have fun

haha true

[dontu_worry]

I have solo farmed many Ogres as both Axton and Zer0 at OP8. I select weapons based on my enemies, rather than solely based on what character I am playing. I use nearly the same loadout as Axton or Zer0 there: Harold, Casual Swordsplosion (MUST be casual, and 9 mag at that), Grog Nozzle for slagging and use with Chain Lightning and slag Pimpernel (Axton) or Lyuda (Zer0). Blockade for Axton, good parts Antagonist for Zer0. Legendary Hunter or Soldier and most points in the two left trees, with Forebearance buffed from the right tree for Axton because there is so much DOT in the Badass.. For Zer0, pure run and gun, with no provision for melee.

Constant movement is key in the Badass. Avoid being surrounded or cornered. Prioritize archers and dwarves with guns, unless they are far off and you can use cover. The fire archers are the worst, and must be dealt with promptly or you are done. You can kite everything else while you run big circuits of the map, killing archers when able. Skeleton Mages can be igored if you keep your distance, keep moving and use cover. Save them for last. They are much easier when they are the only enemies left. Your Casual Sworsplosion will stun them with a direct hit, giving you time to follow up. Use the damage shrine whenever it's available. Keep your distance from wizards, necromancers, mages etc, using cover and your sentry to take them on one at a time. Once slagged, your harold, or Swordy will destroy them quickly enough. In general, you can only stand and fight for 5 - 10 seconds before you will be crossfired, surrounded or otherwise exterminated. Run, fight, then run a bit more.

This is perhaps my favorite thing in the game because it is one of the least formulaic portions of the game. So many of the raids are just about having certain gear, a certain build, and executing a series of button mashing in the correct way. The Badass requires, movement and timing, informed by good improvisational tactics. There is no formula to mastering it. You must practice it and be able to prioritize enemies, and execute a many maneuvers for a long time, without too many mistakes. Even becoming familiar with the idiotic arena is a requirement for success. A sign that you are beginning to get it, is that you mostly die to spike pits, instead of enemies.

I have attempted the Badass somewhere over a 100 times at OP8, and my success is somewhere around 20 - 30%. There is much room for improvement, and FPS basics will better my success rate, not some sequence of movements, while weilding a certain specific kit.

[Timminat0r]

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

I have solo farmed many Ogres as both Axton and Zer0 at OP8. I select weapons based on my enemies, rather than solely based on what character I am playing. I use nearly the same loadout as Axton or Zer0 there: Harold, Casual Swordsplosion (MUST be casual, and 9 mag at that), Grog Nozzle for slagging and use with Chain Lightning and slag Pimpernel (Axton) or Lyuda (Zer0). Blockade for Axton, good parts Antagonist for Zer0. Legendary Hunter or Soldier and most points in the two left trees, with Forebearance buffed from the right tree for Axton because there is so much DOT in the Badass.. For Zer0, pure run and gun, with no provision for melee.

Constant movement is key in the Badass. Avoid being surrounded or cornered. Prioritize archers and dwarves with guns, unless they are far off and you can use cover. The fire archers are the worst, and must be dealt with promptly or you are done. You can kite everything else while you run big circuits of the map, killing archers when able. Skeleton Mages can be igored if you keep your distance, keep moving and use cover. Save them for last. They are much easier when they are the only enemies left. Your Casual Sworsplosion will stun them with a direct hit, giving you time to follow up. Use the damage shrine whenever it's available. Keep your distance from wizards, necromancers, mages etc, using cover and your sentry to take them on one at a time. Once slagged, your harold, or Swordy will destroy them quickly enough. In general, you can only stand and fight for 5 - 10 seconds before you will be crossfired, surrounded or otherwise exterminated. Run, fight, then run a bit more.

This is perhaps my favorite thing in the game because it is one of the least formulaic portions of the game. So many of the raids are just about having certain gear, a certain build, and executing a series of button mashing in the correct way. The Badass requires, movement and timing, informed by good improvisational tactics. There is no formula to mastering it. You must practice it and be able to prioritize enemies, and execute a many maneuvers for a long time, without too many mistakes. Even becoming familiar with the idiotic arena is a requirement for success. A sign that you are beginning to get it, is that you mostly die to spike pits, instead of enemies.

I have attempted the Badass somewhere over a 100 times at OP8, and my success is somewhere around 20 - 30%. There is much room for improvement, and FPS basics will better my success rate, not some sequence of movements, while weilding a certain specific kit.

Surprisingly enough, I have same weapons you recommended and I do keep moving. The reason why I fail the badass round is spike pits and that's because I dont ever memorize the opened locations so i mindlessly move/jump backwords into them.

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

I have solo farmed many Ogres as both Axton and Zer0 at OP8. I select weapons based on my enemies, rather than solely based on what character I am playing. I use nearly the same loadout as Axton or Zer0 there: Harold, Casual Swordsplosion (MUST be casual, and 9 mag at that), Grog Nozzle for slagging and use with Chain Lightning and slag Pimpernel (Axton) or Lyuda (Zer0). Blockade for Axton, good parts Antagonist for Zer0. Legendary Hunter or Soldier and most points in the two left trees, with Forebearance buffed from the right tree for Axton because there is so much DOT in the Badass.. For Zer0, pure run and gun, with no provision for melee.

Constant movement is key in the Badass. Avoid being surrounded or cornered. Prioritize archers and dwarves with guns, unless they are far off and you can use cover. The fire archers are the worst, and must be dealt with promptly or you are done. You can kite everything else while you run big circuits of the map, killing archers when able. Skeleton Mages can be igored if you keep your distance, keep moving and use cover. Save them for last. They are much easier when they are the only enemies left. Your Casual Sworsplosion will stun them with a direct hit, giving you time to follow up. Use the damage shrine whenever it's available. Keep your distance from wizards, necromancers, mages etc, using cover and your sentry to take them on one at a time. Once slagged, your harold, or Swordy will destroy them quickly enough. In general, you can only stand and fight for 5 - 10 seconds before you will be crossfired, surrounded or otherwise exterminated. Run, fight, then run a bit more.

This is perhaps my favorite thing in the game because it is one of the least formulaic portions of the game. So many of the raids are just about having certain gear, a certain build, and executing a series of button mashing in the correct way. The Badass requires, movement and timing, informed by good improvisational tactics. There is no formula to mastering it. You must practice it and be able to prioritize enemies, and execute a many maneuvers for a long time, without too many mistakes. Even becoming familiar with the idiotic arena is a requirement for success. A sign that you are beginning to get it, is that you mostly die to spike pits, instead of enemies.

I have attempted the Badass somewhere over a 100 times at OP8, and my success is somewhere around 20 - 30%. There is much room for improvement, and FPS basics will better my success rate, not some sequence of movements, while weilding a certain specific kit.

Surprisingly enough, I have same weapons you recommended and I do keep moving. The reason why I fail the badass round is spike pits and that's because I dont ever memorize the opened locations so i mindlessly move/jump backwords into them.

You're nearly there. Just keep doing it and you get a feel for when you can turn and fight while backpedaling, and when you have to turn tail and buy yourself some time. Also kill skills are good here, as you are constantly killing stuff.

[Timminat0r]

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Surprisingly enough, I have same weapons you recommended and I do keep moving. The reason why I fail the badass round is spike pits and that's because I dont ever memorize the opened locations so i mindlessly move/jump backwords into them.

You're nearly there. Just keep doing it and you get a feel for when you can turn and fight while backpedaling, and when you have to turn tail and buy yourself some time.

Thanks! I actually just killed Warlord Slog or specifically King of Orcs, didn't get the drop though :(. At this point should I just suicide so i can repeat the badass round?

[dontu_worry]

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

You're nearly there. Just keep doing it and you get a feel for when you can turn and fight while backpedaling, and when you have to turn tail and buy yourself some time.

Thanks! I actually just killed Warlord Slog or specifically King of Orcs, didn't get the drop though :(. At this point should I just suicide so i can repeat the badass round?

No need to suicide. The mission is repeatable. You can reaccept it from Murderlin without even save/quit/continuing.

[Timminat0r]

Originally posted by dontu_worry:

Originally posted by Timminat0r:

Thanks! I actually just killed Warlord Slog or specifically King of Orcs, didn't get the drop though :(. At this point should I just suicide so i can repeat the badass round?

No need to suicide. The mission is repeatable. You can reaccept it from Murderlin without even save/quit/continuing.

Oh ok cool thanks