This is actually a disgrace

[WesselTT089]

The expansion packs they have released now, are fine, nothing wrong with it. But I am not playing this game anymore because there are just not enough rides. And now they are finally giving players new rides. (About darn time btw) but they hide it behind a thick paywall. Wish I asked for a refund. Thank god I have RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 on Steam.

[jehowi]

Originally posted by SpyroGaming:

Originally posted by jehowi:

Also, no discounts during the steam winter sales. Not playing this anymore until 2025, when all of the dlc has been released in some kind of Ultimate Edition that you can buy for 20 bucks.

you mean the deluxe edition?

No, I was expecting the older DLC's to get a price cut during winter sale. I own the original game, so I cannot buy the deluxe expansion for a reasonable price.

[Ransom_Romanus]

Originally posted by Léon Cleaner's:

some editor / developer are now known to take their customers for money pumps.
it's the economic policy of modern video games ... manage to take the most money to customers who have "loyalty"
Fortunately, some developers still have a morality and release free updates of their product even 2 years after their release (transport fever has just had a patch while the game has been out for 2 years without any DLC pay ... )

Ummm, what exactly have the Dev's of Transport Fever given you for 'free' other than fixes in those patches?


Complete List of Transport Fever Release Notes

Don't get me wrong. The Patches and fixes are good for the game. They just aren't something that anyone should have to pay extra for. Whereas in Planet Coaster you are paying for things that actually contribute to your gaming experience. In addirtion, Planet Coaster has given the players several free content packages that included actual content for the game:

Version : 1.9
Anniversary Update

Change Log
Thememaker's Toolkit now available

Version : 1.4
Anniversary Update

Planet Coaster’s 1.4 Anniversary Update follows our free Winter, Spring, and Summer updates with new content, rides, and features. During our fantastic Frontier Expo we already showed you the following things:

Scenario Editor – giving you the tools to create your own custom scenarios and share them with the community through Steam Workshop!
Three new rides – the Weisshorn (a classic fairground ride), the Hop The Gaps (a rickety side friction ride), and the Cascade (our first water coaster).
Staff Management building – a place for your staff to rest and receive training.
A host of picnic benches – allowing you to create food courts and plazas!
Interchangeable coasters – this lets you switch coaster trains to other types of track allowing for maximum flexibility.
But wait... we’ve got a little bit more!

Firstly, due to much community feedback after the Weisshorn’s reveal at FX2017, we created the Monte Leone. This ride is a smaller and more compact version of the Weisshorn; it has the same mechanical cover and sequences as its bigger brother but it has no roof and a smaller control booth to allow you to customise your own look and feel for the ride.

At Frontier Expo we mentioned one more ride for you, so meet the Zenith coaster! The Zenith is a master class in rollercoaster engineering; it’s a hydraulic launched coaster with a top speed of 175mph that roars vertically up an enormous ‘Top Hat’ element that’s been custom made with a complex support system to include vertical incline and drop rolls for the ultimate thrill for your guests. The train has a sleek, high speed design to make this the complete package.

As well as the much requested picnic benches, you can also decorate your food courts with themed canopies, as well as a few new autumnal trees! We cannot wait to see the beautiful plazas you’ll create.

Version : 1.3.0
Free Summer Update

Change Log
New Features

Display Sequencer - a powerful new tool for creating awesome experiences.
Fireworks - a new type of triggerable object
Fireworks boost your guests' happiness
Fireworks cost money each time they are launched
Fireworks do not cost money until you place them. Previewing from the browser costs nothing
Fireworks that are locked in a scenario do not cost money to trigger
Fireworks are only triggerable
Fireworks have many colour options to get the perfect display
Video Billboards - a new type of triggerable object for custom content
Apply images and video to screens of many sizes
Screens support WebM video and JPG, PNG, TIFF and BMP images
Triggers for Rides - displays now work with rides
Each sequence in a ride now counts as a trigger
Use ride sequences to create displays centred around rides, with the same delay mechanism as display sequencers
Display Cameras - a new way to view displays
Display Sequencers have a special mode to create invisible Display Cameras
Use the Free Look camera to set up the best viewpoints
When it's showtime, use the camera option in the display sequencer to cycle throw and view the connected Display Cameras
Display Speakers - extend the range of your Display Sequencer's audio
Attach the new type of speaker to Display Sequencers
Music from sequencers will play back on these speakers
You can attach a speaker to multiple sources too, to keep the audio source consistent
Painted Wooden Coasters - White Woody's are now available!
All wooden coasters now support painted tracks
Custom Biomes - create your dream landscape
A new option is available in the Sandbox and Challenge modes
Select the types of terrain, background ambience and distant terrain to create the perfect environment
Custom Biomes can also be retroactively applied to old parks when you load them - hold the left CTRL button when clicking Resume from the My Parks screen
Custom Biomes can only be retroactively applied to Sandbox Parks and Challenge Parks
Paint Mode for Terrain sculpting - 3 ways to paint while sculpting terrain
Auto-paint - paints the terrain you are sculpting based on its height. This is the original method for sculpting terrain

New Rides

Iron Claw
Sky Watcher
Black Out

New Coasters

Power Up
Viper One
Gnarler
De-Gen and Bolt

New Scenarios

Goldmine Tower
Miss Elly's Diner
Starship Hanger

Coaster and Tracked Ride Blueprints

'Steam' - Luna Autos Powered Tracked Ride blueprint
'Tornado' - The Monster Coaster blueprint

New Scenery

Over 60 new scenery pieces including:
Americana Celebration Scenery
Video Billboards
Fireworks Special Effects
Wild West band pieces
8 Fireworks display blueprints
12 building blueprints from the 'Downtown' scenario, for all your metropolitan needs
2 building blueprints from the 'Oak Island' scenario
18 building blueprints from the 'Chief Beef's Raceway' scenario, for your Rivera parks
UI

Spring Update
Version : 1.2.0

Free Spring Update
Queueing in front of Enterprise in the snow

Change Log
New Management Features
Crime and Security management

Two forms of crime introduced, theft from guest's pockets and vandalism
Pickpockets
Vandals

Mechanics will repair vandalised bins and benches at no additional cost as part of a new work task

New 'Security Guards' staff type added
Helps deter crime and littering
Spots, chases, and ejects pickpockets from the park
Retrieves and returns stolen cash from the pickpockets to their victims if caught before leaving the park

New 'Security Guards' info panel added
Staff statistics
Staff happiness
Happiness
Energy level
Task list
Chase Pickpockets
Eject Vandals
Eject Guest Groups
Work Roster

New "Security Cameras" scenery objects added
"Security camera"
"Wall Mounted security camera"
New “Security Cam Mode” added - Players can view through the lens of the security camera
Up and down arrows in the security cam mode interface will cycle through all the security cameras placed in the park

New Rides
Big Wheel
Elixir Machine

New Coasters
Bakasura
Steel Hydra
Trident

Coaster and Track Ride Blueprints
Added 9 new blueprints
Crankstart - Luna Autos - Powered Track Ride
Whitewater - Rolling River - River Rapids
Flight of the Dragon - Dragon - Junior Coaster
Afterburn - Cloud Runner - Wing - Launched Coaster
Serpentine - Steel Hydra - Suspended Coaster
Adversary - Rival - Inverted - 4 Seater Coaster
Labrys - Bakasura - Giant Inverted Boomerang Coaster
Cortez - Trident - Boomerang Coaster
Ring Racers - Go Karts - Powered Track Ride
New Scenery
Over 150 new scenery pieces including:
Animatronics
Shop signs
Fencing
Racing props
Security Cameras
Added 2 new path types with a wood effect - perfect for piers and decking!
Added 2 new queue types with a wood effect - layers well with the new path types and scenery panels!
UI

Metal walkway - 2m square
Metal walkway - 4m by 2m
Metal walkway railing 4m

Over 35 more triggered sound effects including 6 entirely new effects

Over 15 new ambient sound effects

New Flatrides, new Coasters, and Go Karts, scenery and security guard/vandal audio added to match in game features

Version : 1.1.0
Free Winter Update

With the weather getting colder and the holidays drawing closer, it’s the perfect time to release our all-new FREE Winter Update for you to enjoy!

The Winter Update will automatically become available to you via a Steam update.

This seasonal gift contains the following festive treats – there is something for everyone, so check out the update notes below!

New Rides

Collider! The winner of our community poll with 41.57% of the votes - a retro sci-fi ride with 20 swinging gondolas on a horizontal Ferris Wheel that rises to an angle of 87 degrees.
Bumpin Derby; a long-time favourite has found its way into Planet Coaster! Give a fist bump to these bonkers bumper cars!

Three new Scenarios!

Festive King Coaster’s Crackers will let you earn up to nine more stars – be sure to think about your ride prestige...

New Shops

Cosmic Cow Ice Cream; get some actual snow cones!
Gulpee Soda; joining the Gulpee family!
Missy Good; donut worry, be happy! Missy Good’s sugary goodness will cheer you right up!
Pipshot; a healthy alternative to the fast food goodness – and there’s three of them! Pipshot Water, Pipshot Juice, and Pipshot Smoothie are going to blow your guests’ minds.
Pizza Pen; get it while it’s hot and cheesy!

Winter Theme and Scenery Objects

Snow/Ice Biome; it’s getting chilly in your park! Explore this beautiful Arctic biome in Sandbox or Challenge mode.
Snow Objects; create realistic snow-covered areas and build your own snowman!
Gingerbread wall set; we can’t wait to see the creative gingerbread houses you can build in-game!
Winter Scenery; decorate your park with a lovely Christmas tree or a carolling choir.
Festive King Coaster is your latest addition to the Entertainer family!

New Transport/Tracked Rides

Sleigh Ride; jingle all the way with these tracked snowy sliders!
Iron Horse; a new transport ride for your park visitors to choo around your area.

New Coaster Blueprints

Screamer (the American Arrow)
Lycanthrope (Werewolf)
The Hunt (Pioneer)
Frenzy (Rage)
Trailer Blazer (Aethon)
More – see the build notes for full details. Includes:

Pressing F5 now transports you back into the game rather than the menu.
Stability improvements
Balance
Bug fixing

[jbprofessor010]

Bye! I'm sure they will care especially with the hundreds of thousands who are in full support of this game. Why even comment on the forum? Attention??? but who am I...

[SilentSword]

Originally posted by Joël:

Originally posted by WesselTT089:

Yes it should. Just for fun, go check the amount of rides in the RollerCoaster Tycoon games. Games are from 1999-2003/04. The difference is just too big.

The rides in RollerCoaster Tycoon 1, 2 and 3 took a considerable less amount of development time and resources. Rides in Planet Coaster are way more advanced when it comes to art, animation, level of model detail and gameplay. Nowadays it takes at least 1,5 months to develop a single ride for Planet Coaster

The comparison is a bit unfair imo.

I think it’s a fair comparison. Remember that roller coaster tycoon was coded in assembly language and all the art and animations had to be hand made. Modern animation tools and development tools make the process much easier.

[TofuDieb [profile in progress]]

Originally posted by Captain Pothead:

Its only $10.99. Should it be free or something?

Yes.

[Oz Gaming]

Originally posted by LordJulius:

Originally posted by Captain Pothead:

Its only $10.99. Should it be free or something?

Yes.

No, it should Not be free

[Admiral Obvious]

I fundamentally disagree with the thread. Frontier does free updates along with the rides and scenery pack DLC.

Rides have already been given away for free with most patches. I'm a bit surprised they went with a ride focused DLC. All of them seem pretty high quality to boot.

[Niek]

Yep i agree. Felt this way the second DLC got released.

[Stronkie]

The rates how the DEV's are pumping these DLC out is plain out stupid. 6 times 10,99 = €65,94 and 3 small ones each 3 euro . Grand total of aprox. €75,- . Then the Game itself , then the VIP ticket (I bought the game in early acces , paid a lot for it)

So nope will not buy all DLC anymore. I have not done since the last two. Most of the rides they should bring out for free. At least show us more , also increase the time when you bring out new DLC.. This is getting out of hand. Don't get me wrong. But I would not even spent over the 120 euro to any AAA game inc all DLC :)

Or just come out with a proper DLC with all 6 DLC combined for 30 euro. I would be for that. Or bring out a season's pack

[mazzzer]

Why are people moaning about DLC packs if you dont like the price dont buy them simple as im a big gamer on pc and console so ive come a custom and excepting that most modern games are going to charge you extra for addons but i must admit the game could do with lots more flat rides and kid rids

[Wildboy1983]

If people insist on making direct comparison to RCT 3 it should be also noted that at the time of launch the retail price of the game was around £27.99. this was back in 2004. I remember purchasing planco for less than this at time of launch. I reckon with the total cost of dlc you get to a roundabout equivalent value of the 2004 launch price taking into account inflation and the huge change in games industry throughout this time. I have purchased all dlc and I am perfectly comfortable in having sunk £80 into the game because it has given me over 800 hours of enjoyment. I suppose I could have gone to the cinema 6/7 times with that money instead......

[Niek]

Originally posted by mazzzer:

Why are people moaning about DLC packs if you dont like the price dont buy them simple as im a big gamer on pc and console so ive come a custom and excepting that most modern games are going to charge you extra for addons but i must admit the game could do with lots more flat rides and kid rids

Because we don't want to pay 10 bucks to have extra rides. We want them for free, because that's what you expect to a game you buy. To get it updated. Not to have to buy a DLC every single time they release something new.

[Time_Child]

I'm not against payed extra content, money has to come from somewhere and everyone has to get payed.

What I do find a bit disapointing is announcing two new coasters like in the Worlds Fair DLC while they're actually exactely the same coasters with different trains...

[dohf]

Things that can go into DLCs:
- Additional Rides
- Additional Scenery
- Additional Career Scenarios
- Additional Game Mechanics

Things I expect in accompanying patches/free updates:
- GUI / QoL stuff (Like parkwide heatmaps for litter/crime/staff buildings etc.)
- Bugfixes / optimizations (like double digit FPS on reasonable PCs)
- Balancing (this seems to be missing completely. Has there ever been an effort to at least try to balance the economy?)
- Updating the existing career to incorporate what is now in the (base-)game
- If, for any reason, a game was released without a tutorial, that should be added in in one of the first patches (so, years ago)

So, I'm ok with the DLC, but I'm disappointed with the patch.

[Ransom_Romanus]

Originally posted by Niek:

Originally posted by mazzzer:

Why are people moaning about DLC packs if you dont like the price dont buy them simple as im a big gamer on pc and console so ive come a custom and excepting that most modern games are going to charge you extra for addons but i must admit the game could do with lots more flat rides and kid rids

Because we don't want to pay 10 bucks to have extra rides. We want them for free, because that's what you expect to a game you buy. To get it updated. Not to have to buy a DLC every single time they release something new.

Then I'll pay you $20 to mow my lawn the first day you mow it then I'll expect you to show up every week afterwards to mow my lawn for no additional money paid to you.

WOW. Some people have severe entitlement issues.