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Euphytose Sep 26, 2018 @ 12:27pm
What's up with the stupid keybindings?
First, the ping key, bound to ALT, with no way of changing it, and now, the emote wheel, bound to Y. But why?

Maybe you're not aware, or your hands are very special, but this is how a normal human being places their hand on the keyboard:

https://imgur.com/a/gXGtMu4

We have ALL the keys available, except for four of them. Out of all the keys, you chose Y, which is incredibly annoying to press, and the ping key, which can be quite important, forces me to put my thumb in the most uncomfortable position.

T, F, G, D, S, A, C, V, CTRL, Shift, 1234, and other keys are much more practical.

We've been able to rebind keys since the late 90s. Not having keybinding option is a cause for concern. Maybe you should add this very basic function instead of focusing on e-sport?

You can forcebind the card keys with the Unity launcher, or rebind other keys with AutoHotKey. Should this be necessary to have a comfortable gaming experience? I think not.

Should I create a poll to ask people what they think of that option?

Done: https://www.strawpoll.me/16533038
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LOLPATROL  [developer] Sep 26, 2018 @ 1:28pm 
It was chosen so players wouldn't hit it by accident. That being said, I agree with you on keybindings, would love to be able to rebind the keys in-game. It's a good suggestion, something we are aware of. Hopefully we can get around to it soon.

Euphytose Sep 26, 2018 @ 1:30pm 
Originally posted by LOLPATROL:
It was chosen so players wouldn't hit it by accident. That being said, I agree with you on keybindings, would love to be able to rebind the keys in-game. It's a good suggestion, something we are aware of. Hopefully we can get around to it soon.

I'm not even asking for a UI. Please forward this to your coders.

I just want to be able to edit a config file, somewhere. Right now, that ALT key for pings cannot be rebound anywhere, even in the registry. You basically hardcoded it.

Just make a plain text config file, at the very least for keybindings.
K-Bro Sep 26, 2018 @ 1:54pm 
I do agree with Euphytose on this, the ping key is most awkward, and now so is the emote key.

I really don't think accidental key pressings are likely, since a keyboard user will surely have all four fingers already on the relevant buttons, and only move their fingers to operate either an emote or a ping. The only button conceivably pressed accidentally for me would be the spacebar with my thumb.

On a personal note, D and F would be the ideal defaults to me.
Last edited by K-Bro; Sep 26, 2018 @ 1:58pm
Vrakos Anthrakir Sep 26, 2018 @ 11:26pm 
Originally posted by LORD_G:
MAybe in Denmark they HAVE Y on the borders of Keyboards
if google is to be trusted, they don't
fnu# Sep 27, 2018 @ 4:03am 
key binding would be great in general. i'd love to set the minion-placement keys to my spare mouse-keys.
Euphytose Sep 27, 2018 @ 12:14pm 
Originally posted by fnu#:
key binding would be great in general. i'd love to set the minion-placement keys to my spare mouse-keys.

That's already doable with autohotkey if you want to give it a go.

Create a new AHK script and paste this in it:

MButton::q
XButton1::w
XButton2::e

Replace whatever necessary key you want. If you have more buttons you need to use your mouse software. But you should already be able to bind those buttons to keyboard keys anyway. Create a specific profile for the game.
K-Bro Sep 27, 2018 @ 1:10pm 
For complex mouse button mapping, I can recommend an app called X-Mouse Button Control.

But that level of customisability not really needed for Minion masters, any key mapping software will do it, Autohotkey being the classic.
Memfisto Sep 27, 2018 @ 5:05pm 
Editing key bindings is definitely something the game should have, but your "prefered" keys are weird as hell man. T, V, and G easier to press than Y and alt? Much lesser movement for Y/alt than any of the 3.
Euphytose Sep 27, 2018 @ 6:58pm 
Originally posted by Memfisto:
Editing key bindings is definitely something the game should have, but your "prefered" keys are weird as hell man. T, V, and G easier to press than Y and alt? Much lesser movement for Y/alt than any of the 3.

You must have a really strange keyboard if you have more distance to T, G, or V, than you have to Y.

Any of the three don't require me to change my hand position at all. Y requires me to extend my index finger past what I'm capable of with the standard hand position.

I also have very long fingers, so it's not a physical problem.

Same with ALT. I have to basically put my thumb below my hand to reach it. TGV are keys that I use in the vast majority of the games I play with no diffficulty. "Y" is almost always "chat".

Most keyboards have their first letter row as QWERTY, mine is AZERTY, but in both cases, Y is after T, so it's impossible for it to be easier to press than T.
Last edited by Euphytose; Sep 27, 2018 @ 7:04pm
laggy_helgi Sep 28, 2018 @ 1:02pm 
Well, if you have a German keyboard, your Y and Z keys are basically swapped. So yeah, the keybindings must be changeable in the game settings.
Skilllettt Dec 11, 2018 @ 4:35pm 
i agree, keybiding would be great
why say they are "stupid", but ask nicely. Keybind are 100% fine the way they are tho. Yes rebinding should always be a thing on PC, but these are def where I would put them other than on side mouse keys.
Euphytose Dec 11, 2018 @ 9:29pm 
Originally posted by DeXni:
why say they are "stupid", but ask nicely. Keybind are 100% fine the way they are tho. Yes rebinding should always be a thing on PC, but these are def where I would put them other than on side mouse keys.

Shift and CTRL are both easier to access than ALT, objectively. And the whole keyboard is pretty much free since there are only four main keys.
K-Bro Dec 14, 2018 @ 11:10am 
QWER agree - fine as they are. Would be nice to be rebindable, but good choice for default.

The rest - ugh, horrible horrible horrible.

And to ping, you must:
(1) find and hold ALT, (2) hold LMB, (3) drag mouse, (4) only then release LMB, (5) and only then finally release ALT.

In that order.

During a match.

It's fricken crazy!

Perhaps we should also be asked to complete an "I'n not a robot" captcha each time we want to ping as well?!!
Last edited by K-Bro; Dec 14, 2018 @ 11:12am
Jian Hou Zi Dec 15, 2018 @ 9:10am 
Apogee/3D Realms did it best: Not only could you reassign ANY key in their games, you could assign two different keys to one command, or even assign the same key to multiple commands. The setup would warn you about double-assigning a key, but it would let you do it. My brother liked to assign the same key to shoot and the medkit hotkey so that after taking damage his return fire would also heal him.

If you wanted to clear all key bindings from a command, perhaps because it was one you never used and didn't want to accidentally hit it, you could.

You could even assign left/right SHIFT/CTRL/ALT separately whereas now you typically cannot. You can't even differenciate numpad numbers from non-numpad numbers any more! I'm not sure if it's because of lazy programming or idiots who design the operating systems decided that there's no reason to allow differenciation between the left/right keys.
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Date Posted: Sep 26, 2018 @ 12:27pm
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