Draft Mode Rewards are too small

[Peyches00]

I got 12 wins in draft mode and got 3 power tokens and 800 something gold. (and very little shards from common chest.) The legendary chest was literally 3 power tokens. What is this? I get 12 wins and this all I get. This is hardly worth it. I rather had just got a legendary card.

I don't understand the point of draft mode if you get so little. It doesn't even help me get interesting legendaries and supremes (the cards I am missing and want the most). Mind you 12 wins is the maxiamum wins. I think with that achievement you should get supremes or legendaries.

[Khazlariko]

Originally posted by Peyches00:

I got 12 wins in draft mode and got 3 power tokens and 800 something gold. (and very little shards from common chest.) The legendary chest was literally 3 power tokens. What is this? I get 12 wins and this all I get. This is hardly worth it. I rather had just got a legendary card.

I don't understand the point of draft mode if you get so little. It doesn't even help me get interesting legendaries and supremes (the cards I am missing and want the most). Mind you 12 wins is the maxiamum wins. I think with that achievement you should get supremes or legendaries.

For many of us, 12-wins is very easy to achieve. When I'm playing regularly, I'll do 12 win drafts daily. Now subtracting your entrance fee, you were rewarded with a little over 3000 gold worth of value. How much gold do you think you would have got from playing 12 ranked games? Irrelevant, because you got the same gold from the individual draft games. So you literally got 3000 gold that you wouldn't have earned in any other game mode on top of the gold from normal playing. If you're time restrictive, maybe focusing on the league rewards each month is a better goal, but where's the progress when you're stuck in a league (or it's becoming too time consuming to go to the next league. However, the draft rewards can supplement your monthly league rewards as it is in no way time locked like daily quests, league rewards and expeditions.


Personally, I think the rewards are reasonable. Mind you, you CAN get legendary cards from 12-win drafts but at a lower chance than the 3 power tokens or legendary gold chest. But if you do enough 12-win drafts, it averages out and, again, I think is pretty reasonable. I've got a fair few legendary cards from drafts that I just plain wouldn't have got playing any other game mode, plus a whoooole heap of gold/tokens.

[Peyches00]

Gold is too easy to get. 3,000 is like 3 or 4 daily quest. So, 12 wins = 3 or 4 daily quests? When I pay an entry fee it is expected to be a risk for a higher reward which it is but, it isn't any less grindy. I still have to deal with luck, the annoying thing and something I would like to get rid of as much as possbile. Sure Draft mode is the fastest way to fill out my collection but it still so grindy.

If it is so easy for most people to get 12 wins, then they should either give players first time 12 wins rewards or take off the entry fee and change the system to three wins gives you a power token (only once per day). I don't see why some memebers of the community "abusing" (perhaps not the right word) the draft made means that no one should be rewarded more than just three or four days of daily quest. I played draft mode in the efforts to remove the grind and all it did is give me a better tool to grind with.

Essentially what I am saying it: Draft mode is faster but its still just feels the same. Giving me Gold or power tokens is the same thing even if it is 3,000 gold faster. 3,000 gold is cool but doesn't remove the grind. Shards or guartaneed supremes and legendaries would be nice.
12 win rewards aren't so great, and it sucks to see that as a first timer.

[FreeForAll]

What do you think the purpose of Draft Mode is? To remove all grind?

[Mordtziel]

I have to wonder what you think it should give. Like an actual amount. 3000 gold for about an hour's worth of time doesn't seem that bad to me. Especially when I can repeat it all I want.

[Peyches00]

It would be nice just to get the difficult to obtain cards for getting the maximum 12 wins. But since that is a joke and people can just repeat it over and over again, you can't make the rewards like that. I didn't want to play draft mode on repeat. I want play my own collection.

I don't think draft mode should remove All grind but I don't think adding 3,000 gold removes enough grind for 12 wins. 12 wins should be an achievement as the medal for goes up just like the ranks. The purpose of the entry fee is to add risk for a higher reward not for an abritary random fee. But if that is compromised by people just easily beating it then I don't know what to say other than to change the system or just keep it as is.

I figured from other games that 12 wins was going to be really rewarding but instead it is just "I want more stuff let me do this on repeat" button. That is the big reason why I thought it was too low, I didn't think it was just a repeat "That was Easy" button. I didn't think the maximum 12 wins was just easily gotten "about an hour's worth of time." If draft mode is just the best way to grind with Zero risk, then rewards are just fine. Seems like a majority sees it that way.

[Kyuu]

Draft is not a mode made to give you free gold, it is an alternative game mode for people who like playing games with and against different decks than usual, the rewards are there just to... reward players, and without the entry fee anyone would easily redo the deck entirely all the time (wich is already easy to do) beside that draft is already the fastest way to get gold from the game, so why are you complain about the best rewards possible?

[Peyches00]

Originally posted by Kyuu:

Draft is not a mode made to give you free gold, it is an alternative game mode for people who like playing games with and against different decks than usual, the rewards are there just to... reward players, and without the entry fee anyone would easily redo the deck entirely all the time (wich is already easy to do) beside that draft is already the fastest way to get gold from the game, so why are you complain about the best rewards possible?

If there is an entry fee, then the mode was not just made for people to play unusual decks. The rewards are in place to reward players for the risk they put in. To think they are just rewarding players arbitrarily is foolish. To have draft mode increase rewards as wins go up and show different medals that mimic climbing in rank queues, clearly shows the competitiveness the mode is attended to have.

If we are just going to have rewards to reward players, then it wouldn't only be uniquely tied to one mode. It is not just to be an alternative mode. It has an entry fee with ranking rewards and theoretically matches players with other players at similar wins. The reason why I was "complaining" was I thought the rewards were too small. It has nothing to do with whether or not draft mode is the best mode for getting gold. In fact, I don't even want gold. I want a effective way to fill out my collection.

[Kyuu]

Minion masters is a paid game, but a cheap one, and technically you can just get it for free in the giveaways this game has all the time, and it updates regularlly, just compare the grind from this game with other games and you will see that this game is absolutely generous when it comes to rewards especially from draft, draft rewards used to be better before but they were so good that was ridiculous, draft is a fair and fast way to get what you need to get any card you would want from the game, that is what i'm trying to say, one hour of gaming and you will get at least 3 cards worth of rewards in a game that don't really have too many cards to get and that is just great

[asdf]

draft rewards are fine imo

[Peyches00]

Originally posted by Kyuu:

Minion masters is a paid game, but a cheap one, and technically you can just get it for free in the giveaways this game has all the time, and it updates regularlly, just compare the grind from this game with other games and you will see that this game is absolutely generous when it comes to rewards especially from draft, draft rewards used to be better before but they were so good that was ridiculous, draft is a fair and fast way to get what you need to get any card you would want from the game, that is what i'm trying to say, one hour of gaming and you will get at least 3 cards worth of rewards in a game that don't really have too many cards to get and that is just great

Ah, and too that I agree.

[kavinh]

Originally posted by Khazlariko:

Originally posted by Peyches00:

I got 12 wins in draft mode and got 3 power tokens and 800 something gold. (and very little shards from common chest.) The legendary chest was literally 3 power tokens. What is this? I get 12 wins and this all I get. This is hardly worth it. I rather had just got a legendary card.

I don't understand the point of draft mode if you get so little. It doesn't even help me get interesting legendaries and supremes (the cards I am missing and want the most). Mind you 12 wins is the maxiamum wins. I think with that achievement you should get supremes or legendaries.

For many of us, 12-wins is very easy to achieve. When I'm playing regularly, I'll do 12 win drafts daily. Now subtracting your entrance fee, you were rewarded with a little over 3000 gold worth of value. How much gold do you think you would have got from playing 12 ranked games? Irrelevant, because you got the same gold from the individual draft games. So you literally got 3000 gold that you wouldn't have earned in any other game mode on top of the gold from normal playing. If you're time restrictive, maybe focusing on the league rewards each month is a better goal, but where's the progress when you're stuck in a league (or it's becoming too time consuming to go to the next league. However, the draft rewards can supplement your monthly league rewards as it is in no way time locked like daily quests, league rewards and expeditions.


Personally, I think the rewards are reasonable. Mind you, you CAN get legendary cards from 12-win drafts but at a lower chance than the 3 power tokens or legendary gold chest. But if you do enough 12-win drafts, it averages out and, again, I think is pretty reasonable. I've got a fair few legendary cards from drafts that I just plain wouldn't have got playing any other game mode, plus a whoooole heap of gold/tokens.

You have 1.4k hours on the game i don't think you're really considered the norm, i don't think you should be looking at it from the standpoint of being able to get 12 wins daily that's definitely not possible for the majority of players and given the nature of it you'd need to win more then 4 times more then you lose.

I don't think the rewards are that bad given the cost but i think the issue is it's just way too lackluster i'd much rather they reupped the draft costs to 1.5k but gave a power token each time but made the reward ceiling higher then how it is atm, since even winning 12 wins in a row isn't really satisfying when it's the same rewards as you'd get from a daily.

[Renoku]

Draft rewards are small enough that few people would ever play it for the rewards. 750 gold is a horrible investment, considering that (assuming community wins and losses are on a bell curve) the odds are against you getting anything worth even close to what you paid for as an entry fee. Draft is fine for players who are bored of the regular game modes and have all the cards they already want, but I'll probably never touch draft again until I become a real pro at this game.

[FreeForAll]

Originally posted by Renoku:

Draft rewards are small enough that few people would ever play it for the rewards. 750 gold is a horrible investment, considering that (assuming community wins and losses are on a bell curve) the odds are against you getting anything worth even close to what you paid for as an entry fee. Draft is fine for players who are bored of the regular game modes and have all the cards they already want, but I'll probably never touch draft again until I become a real pro at this game.

I mean I think that's what Draft is supposed to do. Reward for high game knowledge and skill. Not reward just to reward. It's meant to be a gamble.

[Renoku]

Originally posted by 3FFA:

Originally posted by Renoku:

Draft rewards are small enough that few people would ever play it for the rewards. 750 gold is a horrible investment, considering that (assuming community wins and losses are on a bell curve) the odds are against you getting anything worth even close to what you paid for as an entry fee. Draft is fine for players who are bored of the regular game modes and have all the cards they already want, but I'll probably never touch draft again until I become a real pro at this game.

I mean I think that's what Draft is supposed to do. Reward for high game knowledge and skill. Not reward just to reward. It's meant to be a gamble.

But the rewards aren't high enough. The vast majority loses gold and time from it. Why make a game mode only beneficial for a small majority?

[wuffers]

Originally posted by Renoku:

But the rewards aren't high enough. The vast majority loses gold and time from it. Why make a game mode only beneficial for a small majority?

You mean minority? Anyway, part of this is also a gold sink for regular users. Getting to 7 wins for a free draft isn't that onerous at all anyway. If you are anywhere consistent (to average 7+ wins), you'll get infinite value out of draft, which is already good enough.

I liked the idea of granting a free token every draft, even at the cost of a higher draft entrance fee. However, as other have said, the draft rewards are fair for the cost of the draft itself.

What are you suggesting as changes? Higher entrance fee for higher rewards? That might put the game mode out of reach for users who might not be as confident to try it.