"spirit" is overpowered

[SS]

If you want to know why the new master is broken, this is why.

[†Yawgmoth†]

what s broken about it

[kado]

Spirit gives a minion 200 HP. That alone can convert any range minion to become a tank. Even scrats can become a tank. 200 HP is hard to remove with spells as it requires something that can deal damage over 300 and the only 2 spells that do that is Nvirana Breath and Beam of Doom. Fireball is the next strongest spell but it only does 170 points of damage. New Master can buff up to 3 random minions for free. So yea that is overpowered right now. That and Nvirana Dragon as well is OP.

[†Yawgmoth†]

it buffs minions rndly
on ranged and flyers it s pretty good but not op or broken like u make it sound

[Lucifearus]

Dragon + spirit is pretty dumb, i agree. I dont think spirit itself is OP, but properly used its powerful and lethal.

[Aigle1705]

the dudes defending either never saw the manapuff madness spiritmancer or play it theirselfs.

it realy gets outa controll fast, since you can force new low health minions to walk in ya way.

same goes for turncoat units.

n than there still is azali or if your not as lucky, there is banner bearer.

maybe they should just cut puffs from giving spirits

[Clem]

What's funny is people were saying that spirit was going to be useless when it was changed so that it wouldn't stack on a single unit. I think it works even better now, haha.

[Boo Seta]

Not only the spirit, the dragon is OP too... compere Morellia 3rd perk with any other master's 3rd perk. It's clearly out of balance.

[Euphytose]

Yeah, Nyrvir as a perk 3 is totally crazy. Definitely the strongest perk 3 right now.

As for spirit, I agree that it's a bit too much. In fact even 100 was enough. Maybe 150?

[nahwt]

Originally posted by Euphytose:

Yeah, Nyrvir as a perk 3 is totally crazy. Definitely the strongest perk 3 right now.

Nyrvir:
2200 HP
50 DPS AOE (but constantly misses cause he's slow as ♥♥♥♥)
+ his spitfire
+ entry splosion - 6 Mana

Terrorbrutus:
2000 HP
20 DPS
+ 50 HP recovery per hit - 0 Mana

If Tbrutus hits just 5 times already surpassed the lifepoints of Nyrvir at zero cost.

Her perk 3 doesn't seem "totally crazy" to me at all. Remove the lane spell and it's fine by me.

[K-Bro]

Spirit is the new Guardian basically.

[kado]

Originally posted by nahwt:

Originally posted by Euphytose:

Yeah, Nyrvir as a perk 3 is totally crazy. Definitely the strongest perk 3 right now.

Nyrvir:
2200 HP
50 DPS AOE (but constantly misses cause he's slow as ♥♥♥♥)
+ his spitfire
+ entry splosion - 6 Mana

Terrorbrutus:
2000 HP
20 DPS
+ 50 HP recovery per hit - 0 Mana

If Tbrutus hits just 5 times already surpassed the lifepoints of Nyrvir at zero cost.

Her perk 3 doesn't seem "totally crazy" to me at all. Remove the lane spell and it's fine by me.

You don't have Nyrvir's attack right. Its damage is 400 in a area of effect of 3 range in a span of over 8 seconds. And Minions don't miss unless their attack is interrupted in someway, so Nyrvir do not miss. And Terrorbrutus does 20 damage in a span of 3 seconds. In a 1 on 1 matchup, Terrorbrutus will have lost 150 HP in those 3 seconds before it can recover his 50 HP.

[Ave]

Originally posted by kado:

Originally posted by nahwt:

Nyrvir:
2200 HP
50 DPS AOE (but constantly misses cause he's slow as ♥♥♥♥)
+ his spitfire
+ entry splosion - 6 Mana

Terrorbrutus:
2000 HP
20 DPS
+ 50 HP recovery per hit - 0 Mana

If Tbrutus hits just 5 times already surpassed the lifepoints of Nyrvir at zero cost.

Her perk 3 doesn't seem "totally crazy" to me at all. Remove the lane spell and it's fine by me.

You don't have Nyrvir's attack right. Its damage is 400 in a area of effect of 3 range in a span of over 8 seconds. And Minions don't miss unless their attack is interrupted in someway, so Nyrvir do not miss. And Terrorbrutus does 20 damage in a span of 3 seconds. In a 1 on 1 matchup, Terrorbrutus will have lost 150 HP in those 3 seconds before it can recover his 50 HP.

400 damage devided by 8 seconds = 50 dps minus the time it takes to actually start attacking but yes its doing aoe in a small range, single target way less then 50 dps thanks to slow attack animation.

i personally think they could balance her 3th perk a littlebit by increasing the mana cost to 8.

or just make it onley cast the line aoe if the user has 20 souls, the master will still make accursed decks playable and the master will be nerfed for other random decks.

[kado]

Originally posted by ...|||Ave|||...:

Originally posted by kado:

You don't have Nyrvir's attack right. Its damage is 400 in a area of effect of 3 range in a span of over 8 seconds. And Minions don't miss unless their attack is interrupted in someway, so Nyrvir do not miss. And Terrorbrutus does 20 damage in a span of 3 seconds. In a 1 on 1 matchup, Terrorbrutus will have lost 150 HP in those 3 seconds before it can recover his 50 HP.

400 damage devided by 8 seconds = 50 dps minus the time it takes to actually start attacking but yes its doing aoe in a small range, single target way less then 50 dps thanks to slow attack animation.

i personally think they could balance her 3th perk a littlebit by increasing the mana cost to 8.

or just make it onley cast the line aoe if the user has 20 souls, the master will still make accursed decks playable and the master will be nerfed for other random decks.

True, but Nyrvir is range where as Terrorbrutus is Melee. So Nyrvir has a headstart in damage.

[Euphytose]

Nyrvir is also multi-target, and attacks air. The comparison of Terror Brutus and Nyrvir makes no sense, Nyrvir is the clear winner here.

[CeeRo]

Originally posted by Euphytose:

Nyrvir is also multi-target, and attacks air. The comparison of Terror Brutus and Nyrvir makes no sense, Nyrvir is the clear winner here.

+1