The Banner Saga 3
Gryffe Jul 29, 2018 @ 9:37am
[Spoiler] So, what was your ending ?
The final confrontation between Ivern and Eyvin didn't... work out as I planned. I stumbled on the last question, about the witch - thought it was four days. Turned out to be three. The game informed me that Eyvin wasn't convinced (the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, I spared the slinger and the baby but that wasn't enough !).

Then came the ultimate choice. I was tempted to tug at his heartstrings by invoking Juno's will, but it was very clear that I only had one shot at this. In the end, with so much at stake, I couldn't take that risk and didn't trust him.

Killed him on the spot to let Alfrun finish the ritual in his stead. And I have to say, for someone I barely knew, I was impressed by her bravery - even as she was crumbling alive under the pressure, she succeeded.

So yep, that was my ending - sun restored, world saved, serpent killed, but Ivern kills Eyvin and the Ravens all die when the ivory tower crumbles. What about yours ?
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Rhode's Knight Jul 29, 2018 @ 10:02am 
I let Eyvin negotiate with the serpent. I thought about Juno: does someone deserves hell? I thought the ending was very existentialist. Every point that Eyvin has made was valid. Why save a world so corrupted and festered with petty evils? Of course, there is hope and all that good stuff...but at which price? Does condemning a person to the most ubearable ordeal worth anything?

Juno would be forced to walk through immortallity being at her core a mortal; I think this would be too cruel...it reminded me of the Trolley's dilemma: it is possible to atribute value to a life? If so, it is moral to do it?

In the end it did not seem to matter if the survivors inherit half of a destroyed world or a whole destroyed world. So I did the right thig...but then again...paraphrasing Nid before her departing: there is not right or wrong choices; there is just what happens next.

Dindi Jul 29, 2018 @ 10:57am 
I got to the same point as you but I tugged on his heart strings at which point he went through the ritual. Honestly Juno's ultimate fate doesn't look that bad in the ending cinematic, and at the end of the day both Juno and Eyvind were responsible.

Furthermore the world serpent was way too dangerous to let live, Juno herself says earlier that we are lucky it was born without its full power so we had a chance to kill it.
Aleonymous Jul 29, 2018 @ 11:08am 
On my first playthrough, I got one of the best endings (world saved, ravens saved, Juno "trapped" inside the black-sun).

After exploring all endings, I admit my favorite one is one of the worst: The Ravens don't make it in time to save Arberrang and, moreover, they're all killed by Bolverk at the feet of the White Tower. Nevertheless, Iver convinces Eyvind to complete the ritual and save what's left of the world. Juno is gone, Eyvind and Iver find the Skogr Banner strewn on the floor of the destroyed Great Hall in Aberrang... Rook & Alette get reunited with Aldis in the spirit worlds makes for a "happy" ending, nonetheless. Bittersweet awesomeness! Eyes got murky just typing all this, damn you! :steammocking:
Gryffe Jul 29, 2018 @ 12:21pm 
Originally posted by Aleonymous:
After exploring all endings, I admit my favorite one is one of the worst

According to GoG's list of success, there is an even worst ending : Sole Survivor. All life in the entire creation is wiped out and a still immortal Juno wanders the corrupted lands for all of eternity. Pretty bleak...

Originally posted by Rhode's Knight:
I thought the ending was very existentialist. Every point that Eyvin has made was valid. Why save a world so corrupted and festered with petty evils?

While Eyvin certainly has a silver tongue and does a great work of justifying his decision, I saw right through his ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. For all his talk about saving Juno's from her fate, the only person he's really concerned about is himself.

When her dabbling in mind altering is first discovered, Juno accepts her execution. Even if the Valka's sentence is unjust, revolting, and all kind of wrong, she goes through with it to protect Eyvin, because submitting will ensure that he'll suffer no consequences. She sacrifices herself to protect him. And what does our sweetheart do ? He throws everything she just did for him out of the window and completely invalidate her decision.

From what she tells us late-game, it's pretty clear that Juno's mind was made from the start of the journey and that she's at peace with her decision. She's sacrificing herself again for the sake of the world, for Eyvind to still have a world to live in and a life ahead of him. And keep in mind that she never asked for this, to be brought back as some aberrant revenant and ultimately have to suffer even more for things outside of her control. Yet, she doesn't hate Eyvind. It would have been easy to place the blame on literally anyone else - him, the Valkas, mankind, the Gods... but she doesn't. She just straightens her back and keep walking forward, even if no one trust her or will thank her in the end.

And what does little sweetheart Eyvin do ? Again ? Treats her like a child. Refusing to acknowledge that she made her decision, twice, and throwing the entire fate of the world that we fough so hard to save in jeopardy, again. So really his action here is entirely selfish, he just wants to feel good about himself and feels like he's making the right choice, even if that's invalidating Juno's wish entirely right as he says that he's doing it for her sake.

Now, I understand where Eyvin is coming from. I don't blame him for his decision, if I were in his shoes I might have done the same. He was fragile at that moment, weak, and the serpent exploited that. So while I'm sorry for him, there was too much at stake to let him live - and if it's any consolation, at least his death redeemed him after such a long journey. Rest in peace.

Originally posted by Dindi:
Honestly Juno's ultimate fate doesn't look that bad in the ending cinematic

At least in mine it was tear-jerking since the last memories she'll have from her former life is her only friend hacking her lover in pieces while Afrun kills the entire party with the ritual. Still, she seems to forgive them all in the end... at this point Juno is basically female nordic Jesus.

Originally posted by Aleonymous:
they're all killed by Bolverk at the feet of the White Tower.

That's possible ? How does that even work ?! :O
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Iskandar Greyfox Jul 29, 2018 @ 1:30pm 
The first playtrough I trusted witch and prevented Eyvind. Nothing good came of it.)

The right ending I think the one where Arberrang survives, Ravens survive,Serpent die, Alett and Iver meet in the end.

If anyone is to die in the capital,it is Rook. He will die fighting, his beloved woman will be near, and he will finally meet his family.

And Alett must survive and become Queen or wife of Eigil and save the legacy of her father)
Aleonymous Jul 29, 2018 @ 1:34pm 
Originally posted by Gryffe:
Originally posted by Aleonymous:
After exploring all endings, I admit my favorite one is one of the worst

a. According to GoG's list of success, there is an even worst ending : Sole Survivor. All life in the entire creation is wiped out and a still immortal Juno wanders the corrupted lands for all of eternity. Pretty bleak...

Originally posted by Aleonymous:
they're all killed by Bolverk at the feet of the White Tower.

b. That's possible ? How does that even work ?! :O

a. Well, not THAT bad! In this scenario (Eyvind and Alfrun struck down), the "ritual" cannot be completed, so Warpness wins...

b. If you're defeated in the final boss-fight (against Bolverk), Iver+Eyvind+Juno rush to the tower top, while the Ravens die stalling Bolverk...
entry fragger Jul 29, 2018 @ 3:49pm 
World is destroyed, banner lies on cobblestone. :medieval_flag: Rook reunited with family.

Can you tell me how TBS2 final fight with Bolverk (win/lose) impact on TBS3?
Rylosphere Jul 29, 2018 @ 4:14pm 
I got a relatively safe ending: the world is saved, Rook reunites with his family, Arrberang survivors emergre from the Great Hall, and Iver and the Ravens return.

So just to be clear, how many possible distinct endings are there for?
Inardesco Jul 29, 2018 @ 4:28pm 
Eyvind completed the ritual
All Ravens survive, aside from Bolverk/Bellower and Folka....I made some stupid mistakes in the hope "others" would do the right thing
Derdiu (horseborn) died in the city, Gunnulf died holding up a wall, Rugga died with an arrow in his head before being tossed out by Hakon.
All others survived.
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thorumur Jul 29, 2018 @ 5:33pm 
Given that I played tbs1 and 2 again while I waited for the 26th :D They there both good runs, so I had quiet the headstart into tbs 3
Cause of that I had a super clean first run, maybe a bit too clean, I finished chapter 21 without going to Aberrang once.

In the end I had the 'good ' ending there I convinced Eyvind to do the 'right' thing, and with all characters alive including Folka, except for Ludin of cause :) he sadly never made it to Aberrang
YJ Jul 29, 2018 @ 6:08pm 
Best ending. World saved, ravens saved, Juno trapped. All playable heroes alive, aside from Bolverk, Ekkill, and Onef. I didn't even recruit Ekkill and Onef... Onef gave me a disgusting surprise.
octygen Jul 29, 2018 @ 7:15pm 
Ludin alive and survived the deadly battle @Arb. Folka alive. Bolverk died a quick death from my dredge colossus & Iver. Eyvind did the right thing after I told him "It's not what Juno would have wanted" and Juno is back inside the sun. A few other people died randomly in Arberang like Trygvi.

The only question I have: I am still totally shocked by Rook dying. Can that be prevented? I remember once I almost bludgeoned Rugga to death but Od asked me to stop so I did. Could I have killed him and he would not have convinced me to go outside... to then get smoked by a random coward? I remember feeling total shock when Rook's head hit the ice.
kigraa Jul 29, 2018 @ 7:23pm 
Originally posted by octygen:
Ludin alive and survived the deadly battle @Arb. Folka alive. Bolverk died a quick death from my dredge colossus & Iver. Eyvind did the right thing after I told him "It's not what Juno would have wanted" and Juno is back inside the sun. A few other people died randomly in Arberang like Trygvi.

The only question I have: I am still totally shocked by Rook dying. Can that be prevented? I remember once I almost bludgeoned Rugga to death but Od asked me to stop so I did. Could I have killed him and he would not have convinced me to go outside... to then get smoked by a random coward? I remember feeling total shock when Rook's head hit the ice.

save the dredge baby in the 1st game, and a dredge bodyguard save rook from the spear.
Sellara Jul 29, 2018 @ 9:49pm 
Eyvind put Juno into the sun, Aberrang held out with only one battle after the darkness, seems like I got the best case scenario. A little disappointed. I kind of wish I did worse, because I'd have liked to have more battles in apocalyptic and crumbling Aberrang. I see an achievement for killing a warped Sundr and never saw that.
Uncle Fester Jul 29, 2018 @ 11:04pm 
Arberrang saved (with three returns), Eyvin put Juno in the sun, Ravens all dead (my whole Ravens campaing was a dissaster, its preety inbalanced)
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