Forsaken +DAM functionality

[jonsimon]

So on my second run through I decided to make a powerhouse Alette. With the forsaken title and a lucky item from the market, I get 100% crit chance with overwatch. But the extra damag doesn't show up, she's still doing only 6 after the crit.

Does anyone know what the +DAM titles do and don't apply to?

[[__h.stickeye_]]

i thought crit is double damage. I thought +daM +x was applied no matter what on a hit. But maybe crits are only applied to base damage. So perhaps that 6 damage was a hit of 2 +2 crit and +2 DAM?

[jonsimon]

No overwatch is 3 and the crit brings it to 6.

[Aleonymous]

I think the answer is in which order the effects are processed, e.g.

(a) +DMG --> CRIT
(b) CRIT --> +DMG

lead to different outcome. I'm not sure which-is-which, but it might well be that different abilities/talents/heroic-titles are implement differently (e.g. Overwatch+Forsaken processed differently from Overwatch-only)...

[[__h.stickeye_]]

so in other words, its a mechanic that no one understands nor can be reasoned out. nice.

[Aleonymous]

Let us not generalize for the sake of futile aggression against the Man.

[[__h.stickeye_]]

Originally posted by Aleonymous:

Let us not generalize for the sake of futile aggression against the Man.

Your one liner, while on the outset sounds smart, is actually nonsense.

[Ghilteras]

So anybody figured out how Forsaken work? I want to put it on Ekkill, but I'm not sure the bonus would apply to Guts

[[__h.stickeye_]]

no one has, because the maths doesnt add up.

[KerZerBer]

Uhhh what is the armor on said targets? You will only do 1 damage if your attack is <= to their armor. Overwatch will add +2 damage to 1 damage, which can than be doubled by crit. the +2 damage from the title would only work if their armor is lower to actually apply it, it doesn't work like the overwatch mechanic.

[76561198085041240]

Originally posted by jonsimon:

So on my second run through I decided to make a powerhouse Alette. With the forsaken title and a lucky item from the market, I get 100% crit chance with overwatch. But the extra damag doesn't show up, she's still doing only 6 after the crit.

Does anyone know what the +DAM titles do and don't apply to?

you can't get 100% crit i think. warrior's beret gives you 50%, and forsaken gives +2 DMG, +30% CRIT and _never miss with no adjacent allies_. overwatch adds +2 to regular strength attack. so if your regular strength attack is 1 then +2 overwatch + 2 DAM forsaken = 5. and if you do crit (80%) then it should be 10. that's my take on it, but who knows?

[FatalFrosty]

He's probly being confused by the fact that Forsaken is slightly bugged and the +2 Damage doesn't always come into action, even if there are no adjacent allies. I've noticed it a few times but didn't bother spending enough time to pinpoint the cause of it. However, when it happened for me, it seemed to be related to it being on the hero moving first, in the Arena.