Chapter 8 Extreme is impossible

[Jaborvols]

I recently started doing all chapters on extreme. Some were more challenging, other less. But chapter 8 is a freaking nightmare. Either your economy gets blown to hell when you focus on military or draugs raid you in groups of 8 by second winter. Let alone getting even close to the 1500 fame in all this.

I did multiple runs with all clans by now. I have no idea how to beat this in its current state. Suggestions are very welcome.

[vipersan]

One cheeky way was to use Raven clan, build a few harbours (like 3 or 4), acquire krowns as much as you can, reach 500 fame and just raid the enemy main tile until they are defeated.

[Madkeiros]

Originally posted by vipersan:

One cheeky way was to use Raven clan, build a few harbours (like 3 or 4), acquire krowns as much as you can, reach 500 fame and just raid the enemy main tile until they are defeated.

i tried that on extreme, but since bear units get more damage depending on their fame, their villagers just wiped out the mercenaries completely LOL

[Madkeiros]

i suggest a wolf rush on the bear city before they get to 500 fame, that works just fine too

[[1422] xdaneo]

yes that mission wasn't easy - I used this fellows strat like 3 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ASa_YAaq2c&t=32s
take a look at minute 4:43. If you can't scout that tile adjectant to the wolf den because the enemy already got it, you might as well just reset :D

[chrisslol1]

Originally posted by vipersan:

One cheeky way was to use Raven clan, build a few harbours (like 3 or 4), acquire krowns as much as you can, reach 500 fame and just raid the enemy main tile until they are defeated.

Did this aswell f the fame subdue her like a ggood little vassal! >:D

[vipersan]

Originally posted by Arkinox RimeSteel:

i tried that on extreme, but since bear units get more damage depending on their fame, their villagers just wiped out the mercenaries completely LOL

Sorry to hear my advice didn't help. It has been a while, since I've played it and back then it worked. Maybe mr.chrisslol1 can help with more info, if he did it more recently.

After I completed storyline missions on Extreme (and that was quite some time back), I decided not to play them anymore. As I'm not a really great with micromanaging and kiting, it simply was no fun for me to play those on extreme. And I play games to have fun. I can imagine with newer updates it proboboly got even more difficult on some missions. "Fun" fact: It took me one 340min game to win Chapter 3 on extreme. Victory was mine in August, year 29, lol

[Maukai]

I think that chapter 8 (extreme) is a trol one. I tried to beat it using different strategies to get fame, but none were successful, so I just forgot about the fame and went straight to kill it, and I won very easily XD

[Jaborvols]

Originally posted by Maukai:

I think that chapter 8 (extreme) is a trol one. I tried to beat it using different strategies to get fame, but none were successful, so I just forgot about the fame and went straight to kill it, and I won very easily XD

:D I'm with you on this one. 10 attempts in I threw it all out the window and just crushed her with Wolf Clan by 803 or 804. In general I figured no matter what AI enemy you face, their fight mechanism is not too great and will 99% get wiped by a decent army of 10 and some micromanagement. Except for Ox and Dragon lol, they are a nightmare in late game.

[JVC]

I used Raven, had four harbours, 1,000 gold in the bank and tried to spam their main tile with mercenaries. That didn't work, they were too strong.

Using the same setup, I built an Altar of Kings (if you're at year 4 or 5 it really pays for itself), built an army of 8-10 axe throwers, made my way to Svarn's territory, and used mercs on the first tile bordering him, to soften up the enemy army. That worked. Also throw mercs on the enemy's food tile and wood tile but not so much that you actually conquer them, especially the food tile. It helps your economy a lot that you can grab 100 food there with little effort when you need it. Especially since you'll be supporting Svarn with 6-700 of each resource per year. If you haven't done so already, build a marketplace to be able to pick up any resource you may run out of.

After you've conquered the tile next to Svarn, your next goal is reaching the inland province with three military buildings. Keep throwing mercs at him where possible to keep his soldiers busy and to mess up his home territory. Once you've grabbed his military hub, throw mercs at his main tile and have them soften up his army. Throw mercs again on the same tile to keep his army busy and invade with your army to take out the tower. Then stab what's left of his army in the back.

[verarticus]

I honestly don't think it's possible to win this with a fame victory. The only guides on it I've seen were outdated (and even seemed to use some exploit-ish stuff to win back then) the closest I managed to get was around 1200 when she was at 1460ish, and that was with incredible winter/enemy invade luck. It expects you to beat dragons, but unless I'm missing something you don't have anywhere near enough time/resources to do that and not tank your pop/eco.

[OnlyRex]

You can win it with fame, just need to kill 2x dragons and can harass opponent

[Spaceminnow]

Accept defeat.
Extreme difficulty in this game is designed to be near IMPOSSIBLE.
They probably made it only possible with certain clans or maps that must align perfectly to win. Even if you do get a favorable map, clan, or set up you must be perfect.
Knowing when to attack, defend, expand or upgrade must be all perfect.
Even if you can do your building perfectly the enemy clan, monster and weather event attacks always pushes the clan on its back foot.

Playing on extreme difficulty is like asking the entire clan to hop on one leg, use one hand and jump through fire hoops while executing all clan functions perfectly.

[Imesh]

i personally did this with raven clan: constantly annoy them so they keep their army in defense, while building up and getting fame wherever i can.
it was like 1500 to 1450 when i did it, but it was first try (and i probably was lucky)
otherwise, just go stag

[Berserker]

Feel like i've tried everything. Forget killing the wyerns. I have most success not spending any lore on military at all. Stag-clan ~1200 something is my best attempt yet but i don't know. Starting to get boring now.

[WarnerCK]

Is is possible, but really, really, stupidly, hard because the AI is a cheating cheater. After many attempts, with manually saved checkpoints where things seemed to be going OK, I finally managed to beat it by 64 points.

Lots of skalds, lots of territory, lots of rushing, as I recall. I think i killed a wyvern, and I made sure that I discovered all the wyverns, but I didn't kill the giants.

Way easier to just kill her.