Heat removal

[Sabi The Worst Player Ever]

Long story short - my only source of replenishing water was "cool steam vent" which produced 50C hot water. This, coupled with heat from whole infractructure resulted in heat slowly increasing in base, which leads to problems as plants are dying and nowhere at base temperature is lower than 30C.

Yes, there are "guides" that are instead lectures about mechanics, without providing any real solution. So I ask straight - how to remove excess heat from base. Tried cooling air at oxygen production part, heat isolated, by pumping hot air from it, into ice section of the map (across entire base) and back but it don't work - while air properly cool down when it reach ice section, thanks to radiant pipes here, it turns back again to 30C once it reach the base section and 50C once it reach oxygen production section. Placing thermo regulator don't work either - it only heats up room where it is, easily reaching 120+C temperature, while gas that leaves it stays hot (even if insulated pipe is used).

[Angpaur]

Publicado originalmente por TAGAlblaka:

Nope, it generates 115C hot water (steam). It also clearly states that in the tooltip.

Nope, it generates 110C hot water (steam). It also clearly states that in the tooltip.

Electrolyzers never put out products below 75C, and are heat-deleting if you exceed that temperature.

Nope, the heat deletion starts with water slightly below 20C. But of course the biggest heat deletion effect is when water is as hot as possible.

[gimmethegepgun]

Publicado originalmente por Angpaur:

Publicado originalmente por TAGAlblaka:

Nope, it generates 115C hot water (steam). It also clearly states that in the tooltip.

Nope, it generates 110C hot water (steam). It also clearly states that in the tooltip.

If you're gonna be technically correct, you should actually be CORRECT lol

[Ekimmak]

There are a few ways to get rid of heat.

One is Wheezeworts. They slowly cool down their local area over time. Not fast, but cheap.

AETN is another. Feed them hydrogen, and they'll also cool down the area. If you want to be clever about it, feed them heated hydrogen, and then you're getting rid of more heat, because it actually deletes the hydrogen that goes into it forever, and all the heat in it goes with it.

The most popular is the Steam Turbine. But as you said, you need plastic. Early game plastic is not gotten from the plastic press, it's gotten from Dreckos. You should aim to ranch those for plastic, not Slicksters, if you're early game enough to have heat problems. Because keeping Slicksters happy involves generating more heat, not less.

If you're really desperate to get rid of heat, then look to see if you have a Cool Slush or Cool Salt Slush geyser. Those will produce infinite water that's extremely cool, and you can run those through pipes through hot areas to "absorb" the heat, and then take it to space and just vent it. That also removes heat, but it's wicked wasteful. Install a liquid valve at the start so you can send it through in small amounts.

[Angpaur]

Publicado originalmente por Ekimmak:

If you're really desperate to get rid of heat, then look to see if you have a Cool Slush or Cool Salt Slush geyser. Those will produce infinite water that's extremely cool, and you can run those through pipes through hot areas to "absorb" the heat, and then take it to space and just vent it.

WHY????!
Turn it to water and send to electrolyzers. Or to other things, which like hot water, for example pincha pepperplants.

[Ekimmak]

Publicado originalmente por Angpaur:

Publicado originalmente por Ekimmak:

If you're really desperate to get rid of heat, then look to see if you have a Cool Slush or Cool Salt Slush geyser. Those will produce infinite water that's extremely cool, and you can run those through pipes through hot areas to "absorb" the heat, and then take it to space and just vent it.

WHY????!
Turn it to water and send to electrolyzers. Or to other things, which like hot water, for example pincha pepperplants.

I did say that it's wicked wasteful.
This is an emergency "I need to get rid of all the heat in the area RIGHT NOW" tactic. I dislike using slush geysers for cooling, because you can't be sure what temperatures they're arriving in for filtering. Maybe they've been sitting in the pipes for ages and are room temperature, so it's safe to filter. Or maybe the pipes have been empty and there wasn't much heat to take along the way, and they'll immediately freeze the pipes.

I think if the OP can't use steam turbines yet, they aren't looking for productive uses of water, they're just trying to get rid of the heat.

[Angpaur]

Well then probably just better to suggest to dump the hot liquid somewhere, instead of building a very long pipe up to top of map. It will be much faster. Not everyone is playing space out where maps are small.

[Corona Varus]

Publicado originalmente por Angpaur:

Well then probably just better to suggest to dump the hot liquid somewhere, instead of building a very long pipe up to top of map. It will be much faster. Not everyone is playing space out where maps are small.

Agree. One simple answer is all OP needs.

And half of the community decides to troll them instead and some of them can't even read and I know what type of person lurks in every gaming community and where they're from.

The Simpsons episode (season 6, episode 16) when Marge read something from the statue is actually true.

I feel bad for OP. He should delete the post like what I always do if they try to bump my old posts or unsubscribe to it before they start to spam more arguments that isn't helping OP.

[TVMAN]

Emergency cooling: Build tempshift plates out of ice in the areas you need to cool down now, like your farm. It'll make a mess, but it'll also buy you time and keep your dupes from starving.

Short term: Build a cooling loop containing polluted water and route it through a cold biome. Build radiating pipe segments in the areas you want to cool and in the cold biome in order to dump the heat there. Avoid the ICE-E fan for temp regulation, they're super labor intensive.

Long term: Farm glossy dreckos, make some steel, and build an ATST. The design I use is in this guide under Steam Turbine Cooling:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1359728437

[CaPY]

Steam engines too mainstream for your heat deletion? Steam engines delete 90% of heat and release rest 10% as waste heat.

Or you can have heating room where you keep water at 95C and heat all the water going to toilets and after toilet use water is always at 37C or so. Every time your dupe takes dump you take 95C water and flush it to 37C then heat it again. Repeat.

You can also try arbor tress, their produced wood is cold.

Or you can try that meat eating plant saturn fly trap and have some bees spawn into it, it releases very cold hydrogen from time to time and a lot of it.

[gimmethegepgun]

Publicado originalmente por CaPY:

Or you can have heating room where you keep water at 95C and heat all the water going to toilets and after toilet use water is always at 37C or so. Every time your dupe takes dump you take 95C water and flush it to 37C then heat it again. Repeat.

It's been a long time since this was the case.
Lavatories simply take the 5kg input water, turn it into same-temperature pwater, and then add 6.7kg of 37C pwater to it and average the temperatures.

[Amoc]

Easiest way to cool your base in the mid-game is to just dig out ice from the cold-biome and then build tempshift plates out of that ice in your water reservoir. It will quickly cool your water reservoir down and acts as a huge heat sink for the rest of your base, cooling everything around it.

This is a temporary solution but one that can last a good while until you have plastics etc.

I suspect the real problem though is that nothing in the OP's base is automated and stuff is running and generating heat pointlessly (no smart batteries for example).

[Angpaur]

Melting tempshift plates is fast, but if you don't know: in heat equations for buildings only 20% of its mass is used. This means you lose 80% of cooling potential. So 800kg of ice used for tempshift plate will have same cooling effect as melting 160kg of ice debris.

[吐泡泡的小鱼]

I have an idea. In fact, I studied this project in school. Solar cells can absorb light energy, wind turbines can absorb wind energy, and so on. The heat is absorbed for power generation, which is feasible. In our laboratory, the aluminum silicon alloy absorbs heat to generate phase change, and releases heat for power generation when needed. In reality, this is difficult to achieve because the material loss rate is high. In the game, the loss of materials can be supplemented in time. So, we need a mod, a mod that absorbs heat to generate electricity. I also want to develop it, but I don't know how to combine heat and electricity. This is an idea that may be helpful to you. Thank you.

[cswiger]

Publicado originalmente por 吐泡泡的小鱼:

I have an idea. In fact, I studied this project in school. Solar cells can absorb light energy, wind turbines can absorb wind energy, and so on.

Solar cells use the photovoltaic effect to create a voltage differential when exposed to high energy light. Wind turbines use the mechanical energy obtained from wind to drive a turbine which generates power.

So, we need a mod, a mod that absorbs heat to generate electricity. I also want to develop it, but I don't know how to combine heat and electricity. This is an idea that may be helpful to you. Thank you.

There is no device which turns heat into power directly, but if you want magic cooling, ONI provides wheezeworts and AETNs which violate real-world rules.

Otherwise, the game already has a Steam Turbine, which uses the mechanical energy from the expansion of hot steam to drive a turbine which generates power.

One could add a thermoelectric generator, which uses a significant difference in temperature to generate power via the thermoelectric effect. They are not very efficient, and they only work so long as the temperature difference exists. Simply placing one it a hot area gives no power-- you have to provide cooling on one side to make them work.

[Corona Varus]

Took him 29 comments to finally realize wheezleworts.

Edit: Everyone knows what a wheezlewort is.