Washroom Sieve Loop problem?

[reverendphil]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1359728437

I'm working off of this guide.. and I've turned things on. It's not working though =)
Automation is turning off the sieve until the whole pool is filled with clean water? I've got some dirty water, almost enough to trigger that pump.. but no idea how I'm supposed to be pumping more clean water in here if this is supposed to remain a closed system. Do I have to 'prime' it with more fresh water until it kicks in?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1625739791

[reverendphil]

There's different wording in the 'surviving the early game' guide vs. the Useful patterns guide, but in both cases, it seems to only trigger the sieve if the tank is *full* of clean water. That would mean the tank only gets filled with the output of the sieve.. if it's filled already. I would think the PUMP only kicks in when it's full.. but then how would any water get back to the washroom.

Ugh. Confused. So many pipes.

[Evilsod]

That is the most convoluted way of describing a Closed Loop, Plumbed Toilet system I have ever seen. Especially the use of non-potable and potable if you aren't familiar with the terms. Just say germy water for christ sake!

I think what its trying to say is, instead of using your clean water in the toilet system, use some polluted water and send it through the sieve first.
But at the point you're going to be setting this up, where did you even get all that polluted water from? And the system barely uses any. Your colony isn't going to collapse because you put a few 100kg of clean water into your toilet system.

All you need to do is connect your fresh water supply to the 'inlet' end of the toilet/sink/shower loop until you're happy there's enough water to do 1 full cycle. Cut the connection and leave it. Then all you need is the 'overflow' outlet to make sure it never backs up.

The whole point is that it will never, ever need to be touched again. There shouldn't be any liquid pumps connected after the first 30 seconds.

Dealing with the germy water is another issue entirely but it tops up so slowly it won't matter for a long time.

[reverendphil]

I just watched a video from August that seemed to handle it like that.. run it through the sieve, have an overflow valve, and pipe the germy water elsewhere..

There's so many guides, so much to do, and I'm still figuring this out. I'm only dipping into the slimeworld at this point, being careful to quickly submerge the slime afterwards, but I still haven't ventured out far enough to start making fiber. I think my first game, getting slimelung pretty much immediately, made me cautious.

[Evilsod]

One day I'll get the hang of it myself but unnecessarily complicated guides like that really don't help.

My last game I created a single storage container, bricked up on both sides and filled it with Oil, inside the Cold biome. Once it drops cold enough it all dies and I can transfer it to a more easily accessed container under regular water.
I never did figure out whether there was any benefit to me doing that or what to do with the germ free slime I had... ><

[Strygald]

Ugh lol, that guide is probably quite out of date.

I don't bother with closed loop bathroom system but this is probably the simplest way to do it with the current version:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1625910445

- fill up a liquid reservoir with 5 tons of clean water then dismantle the pump and pipes you needed to do that.

- hook up the output of the liquid reservoir to the inputs of your toilets, washbasins, showers

- hook up the outputs of the toilets, washbasins and showers to the input of a second liquid reservoir(this is optional but it makes a good buffer in case your water sieve stops working temporarily, it'll stop toilets getting backed up)

- hook up this second liquid reservoir output to the water sieve input, under normal operation liquid will pass completely through it.

- hook up the water sieve output to the original liquid reservoir's input, an important thing to do here is build the pipe across its input like in the screenshot... while the reservoir isn't full all of the water will go back into it, once it is full only the excess will pass on ie* the extra water produced from toilets.

Here's a second pic without overlay for clarity:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1625910492

[reverendphil]

That's beautiful, and I'm way ahead in tech for what I've built, so assuming I have the materials and don't need to figure out what plastic is, that should be perfect, thanks!

[cainboy]

Originally posted by Strygald:

Ugh lol, that guide is probably quite out of date.

I don't bother with closed loop bathroom system but this is probably the simplest way to do it with the current version:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1625910445

I was under the impression that using germy water in sinks would would cause germs to go onto dupes, since unlike showers there is no tag stating that all germs are removed from a dupe after use.

If so, then I suppose I could close my system more, since I'm currently only using a pump for the sinks, and the excess water is being stored in a L Reservior in a Chlorinated room to be germ free.

[ho84]

i use a bridge to guide the germy water( from the toilet and then fitered) to join the pipe going to electrolyzer, so no need to worry about the germs. i think it keep things simple and no a pond of germy water is good

[Sussex]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1626477983

Here is my bathroom loop. It is also linked up to my electrolyzer and a second sink in the kitchen, I mean who wants there chef to cook without first washing his hand !!!

[Gravmyr]

The reason your loop isn't working sounds like you have the sensor set to be off till it reaches 900 not on till it hits 900. You want it to be set to below 900, that way it shuts off and doesn't continue to add water and overflow.

[reverendphil]

That makes a ton more sense ;) Unfortunately, it's long gone. I've moved to the simpler one with liquid containers and a sieve, and I'm actually now back to watching some videos. The series from 'grind this game' specific to this update is really recent.. and the idea of blasting the hell out of a giant area and building the skeleton of your base out right away is.. amazing. Mostly because I'm watching him not give a crap about exploring into everywhere, and letting gasses and whatnot build up in various places for use later. I've been building like a turtle, managing my dupes and slowly pushing the edges, afraid of how much damage some gas or slime would do, but I'm totally ready for a fresh game =)

[cainboy]

Originally posted by reverendphil:

That makes a ton more sense ;) Unfortunately, it's long gone. I've moved to the simpler one with liquid containers and a sieve, and I'm actually now back to watching some videos. The series from 'grind this game' specific to this update is really recent.. and the idea of blasting the hell out of a giant area and building the skeleton of your base out right away is.. amazing. Mostly because I'm watching him not give a crap about exploring into everywhere, and letting gasses and whatnot build up in various places for use later. I've been building like a turtle, managing my dupes and slowly pushing the edges, afraid of how much damage some gas or slime would do, but I'm totally ready for a fresh game =)

if there was a LIKE button, I woulda pressed it.

Press on fellow duplicant!