Oil freezing at -40c?

[James Brown]

Suddenly all my oil cooling systems started breaking and it took me ages to check and see that they had changed to freeze temp of crude oil from around -280c to -40c. Is this a mistake or a permanent change?

[Sola]

Wow I hope it's a mistake!

[Ζiоqch]

Permanent.

Oil isn't supposed to stay unfrozen at 20 kelvin.

[Sola]

But why is it freezing at 233K?

[Storm0267]

it does freeze for me. and it looks like metal when its frozen. same for petrol and neptha when they freeze.

[James Brown]

Petroleum is a bit better at -59c still I was using it to liquefy O2 with needs to be down to -184c so my whole chiller is now broken. I was also using oil run past the new hyogen chill to cool my base but that's freezing too.

[Boink]

Well, yes.

It's called reality.

By the same token, it is impossible to refer to a common freezing point for a crude oil because the individual compounds solidify at different temperatures. However, the pour point—the temperature below which crude oil becomes plastic and will not flow—is important to recovery and transport and is always determined. Pour points range from 32 °C to below −57 °C (90 °F to below −70 °F).

https://www.britannica.com/science/petroleum/Nonhydrocarbon-content#ref502593

-40oC is kinda generous. I mean, if you're going to complain about it, why not complain that water freezes at 0oC? Same issue.

Actually - looking at the current game state - the temperature boil/freeze ranges are INSANELY nonsensical. −252.87 °C is hydrogen liquid temperature without effervescing. CO2 is only solid at −78.5 °C.

Etc etc.

Either make your game reality based or just rename everything a mysterious magical science fiction element because otherwise it's just dumb.


And yes: for most of the game's chemicals to become solid, your dupes would be literal ice statues if they even came close to those temperatures.

[James Brown]

Originally posted by Boink:

Well, yes.

It's called reality.

By the same token, it is impossible to refer to a common freezing point for a crude oil because the individual compounds solidify at different temperatures. However, the pour point—the temperature below which crude oil becomes plastic and will not flow—is important to recovery and transport and is always determined. Pour points range from 32 °C to below −57 °C (90 °F to below −70 °F).

https://www.britannica.com/science/petroleum/Nonhydrocarbon-content#ref502593


-40oC is kinda generous.

Reality like the way you can burn hydrogen without oxygen?
That dirty water can 'evaporate' it to dirty O2/ but not clean water?
H2O splitting with a ratio of 8 oxygen to 1 hydrogen?

The game is fun not all that realistic

[Boink]

Originally posted by James Brown:

That dirty water can 'evaporate' it to dirty O2/ but not clean water?

You're 100% correct on the first and last point. First one: I just assumed that if you were in air, the O2 was a given. The last one: not built that yet, but... yeah. That would be weird.

However: sadly - the boiling point of water is 100oC - there are LOTS of nasty things that can evaporate in steam and give you a really bad time.

If you want a specific type: Benzenes typically fall in the boiling point range of ~80oC, depending on type. Which ain't too far off that magical 100oC (especially if you're just boiling water and not doing a lab).

And like magic, your steam is full of benzenes. Also in your crude oil

[James Brown]

I agree in a way. My issue with that is water cannot evaporate is to O2. It can become water vapor in the air and take nasty bugs with it, but if chilled again its still water. That being being said I would love to see water content in air. It would be a fun heat transfer mechanic.

My point about the change in oil temps is that it is a game breaker and I didn't even see it in the patch notes. Just bam broken game.

[AquaX]

Both of you have to understand certain limitations on everything in the game is create balance and challenge. We all know reality has interesting quirks but at the same time boring. This game takes parts of reality and simulate it into the game. If you wanted to be picky, look up Quantum mechanics because this is what happens to a particle when it gets super cold, like near absolute 0 cold.

[Vince]

super cold, isn't that about starmade hole between two universe ? ( :3 )

[Michi]

Originally posted by James Brown:

H2O splitting with a ratio of 8 oxygen to 1 hydrogen?

An oxygen atom weighs about 16 times as much as a hydrogen atom. Why do people keep complaining about this when they seemingly have done no research on it?

[The Mighty Mulletman]

All it means really is a redesign of your cooling system. The next colony's cooling system at worst.

[Vince]

ask cleverbot, cortana, jarvis, ibm watson, etc. michi ^^ they may povide a more clever answer than you even thought about ^^

[James Brown]

Originally posted by Michi:

Originally posted by James Brown:

H2O splitting with a ratio of 8 oxygen to 1 hydrogen?

An oxygen atom weighs about 16 times as much as a hydrogen atom. Why do people keep complaining about this when they seemingly have done no research on it?

Weight in this context is irrelevant. Normal water has 2 hydrogen and 1 oxygen atoms i.e. H2O. Electrolysis breaks the molecules of water break apart into individual atoms. These atoms then
recombine into hydrogen molecules (H2) and oxygen molecules (O2). In the end you get twice as much hydrogen as oxygen. Maybe you should do some research before telling other people too? Just a thought.