So how do you boil water?

[TamTroll]

after creating a closed-circuit loop in wich my waste-water was purified and placed back into my main water supply, i realized that the "food poisioning" germ had taken over my water supply. i heard you could kill them by heating up the water, so i tried making a bunch of space-heaters beneath the tank, but that never did anything even after at least ten or twenty cycles.

it wasn't much of a problem until the clean water my dupes used for making food and watering algea ran out, meaning i had to pump in water from th primary water supply, and that allowed the food poisioning to spread everywhere, combining with a food and algea shortage to completely dismantle my base.

So how exactly do i boil water to kill off germs? space heaters beneath the water tank didn't work, running the pipes coming out of the purifier through a very hot room didn't work and i'm not sure what else to do.

do plan on filling the room i'd eventually use for water storage with chlorine next time i play though, that should kill off any germs that land in there in the first place.

[PhailRaptor]

The idea is to use a series of water tanks, each with a different purpose.

First, your general input tank. Any clean water from the wild, as well as Geyser outflow, goes here. Water from this tank is pumped out and goes through a series of 2 or 3 Aquatuners, submerged in the 3rd tank (more on this later).

This now cooled water empties into your primary water storage tank, from which all your internal water usage is drawn. Lavatories, Showers, Electrolyzers, etc. Everything internal to your base comes from here.

Water that comes back from your base will now be Polluted, and what comes from the Lavatories will be contaminated with germs. Dump it all into that 3rd tank from earlier, with the Aquatuners in it. Add Tepidizer(s) as necessary to maintain the temperature of the water. At this temperature, Food Poisoning will die off rapidly. This should also be enough to push the Polluted Water to boiling. This will produce Steam and Dirt. Cool the Steam back into Water and it will now be clean.

Route that recondensed water back to the first input tank to complete the loop.

[ulzgoroth]

I haven't done it yet, but I'm planning on immersing Thermo Regulators in an insulated pool.

There's also liquid tepidizers, they're supposed to be used for this sort of thing.

I think the max temperature for food poisoning germs is 75 C, so if you've already filtered the water you don't actually have to boil it for sterilization.

[PhailRaptor]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

I haven't done it yet, but I'm planning on immersing Thermo Regulators in an insulated pool.

Thermo Regulators cannot be submerged. They can only stand in very shallow liquid.

The new one for liquids, the Aquatuner, can be submerged.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by PhailRaptor:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

I haven't done it yet, but I'm planning on immersing Thermo Regulators in an insulated pool.

Thermo Regulators cannot be submerged. They can only stand in very shallow liquid.

The new one for liquids, the Aquatuner, can be submerged.

Good to know, seems like it'll make it harder to dump the heat...

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

I haven't done it yet, but I'm planning on immersing Thermo Regulators in an insulated pool.

There's also liquid tepidizers, they're supposed to be used for this sort of thing.

I think the max temperature for food poisoning germs is 75 C, so if you've already filtered the water you don't actually have to boil it for sterilization.

pretty sure i do. the dirty water > pure water machine states that it doesn't get rid of the germs in the process, wich is how i got this problem to start with.

was not aware of the aquaturner. must have never reached that part of the reserch tree.

[PhailRaptor]

Originally posted by Your Mother:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

I haven't done it yet, but I'm planning on immersing Thermo Regulators in an insulated pool.

There's also liquid tepidizers, they're supposed to be used for this sort of thing.

I think the max temperature for food poisoning germs is 75 C, so if you've already filtered the water you don't actually have to boil it for sterilization.

pretty sure i do. the dirty water > pure water machine states that it doesn't get rid of the germs in the process, wich is how i got this problem to start with.

Yes, but if you have already converted the P-H2O to H2O, you don't need to actually boil it to kil the germs in it. Food Poisoning germs already begin dying simply by being in H2O instead of P-H2O, and will die significantly faster if that water is over 167 F / 75 C. Depending on your current infrastructure and resource availability, boiling the water may be a waste of resources. Especially given that methods of heat containment and dispersal are limited.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by PhailRaptor:

Originally posted by Your Mother:

pretty sure i do. the dirty water > pure water machine states that it doesn't get rid of the germs in the process, wich is how i got this problem to start with.

Yes, but if you have already converted the P-H2O to H2O, you don't need to actually boil it to kil the germs in it. Food Poisoning germs already begin dying simply by being in H2O instead of P-H2O, and will die significantly faster if that water is over 167 F / 75 C. Depending on your current infrastructure and resource availability, boiling the water may be a waste of resources. Especially given that methods of heat containment and dispersal are limited.

Okay well, pretty sure i still need to boil it or sanitize the water somehow, given as despite what you say, my water summply was littered to the brim with thriving food poisioning germs.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by Your Mother:

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

I haven't done it yet, but I'm planning on immersing Thermo Regulators in an insulated pool.

There's also liquid tepidizers, they're supposed to be used for this sort of thing.

I think the max temperature for food poisoning germs is 75 C, so if you've already filtered the water you don't actually have to boil it for sterilization.

pretty sure i do. the dirty water > pure water machine states that it doesn't get rid of the germs in the process, wich is how i got this problem to start with.

I'm well aware, I've got that myself. The point is that the temperature that kills the germs is significantly lower than the boiling point. You could stop at 80 C, for instance, and the germs should go away fast while the water is very much staying liquid.

[TamTroll]

Originally posted by ulzgoroth:

Originally posted by Your Mother:

pretty sure i do. the dirty water > pure water machine states that it doesn't get rid of the germs in the process, wich is how i got this problem to start with.

I'm well aware, I've got that myself. The point is that the temperature that kills the germs is significantly lower than the boiling point. You could stop at 80 C, for instance, and the germs should go away fast while the water is very much staying liquid.

Okay fair enough. all i know is i had four or five space heaters beneath the water tank and they never got hot enough for the germs to die out.

[Amiths]

If you are alread near magma you could pass a gas near it and then pass the pipe inside a room made with Abyssalite. Also the pipes need to be made of Abyssalite (not the ones that are near the magma).

Its a little expensive to make all that but its energy free since you can make e loop using a gas bridge.

[MillSarge]

you need to place a liquid tepidizer directly in the water tank. I also put a thermostat in beside it and set it to 70-75 degrees. It will kill bacteria in either clean or polluted water.

[maDEMOman]

food poisoning literally does nothing.

[Trien]

Originally posted by maDEMOman:

food poisoning literally does nothing.

uh, check the status to see what it does. it does some stuff.

[Vince]

here my own attempt, work pretty well, this set up allow me to get around 4 k/s water with passive coolling

i will change a few more more thing

(see screenshot comments, mostly about reducing the electrical cost with gas pump and some minor maintenance/repair access changes)

but it's my first efficent result after many many tries, and i had some hurry elsewhere on my colony

anyway to have it working alone without the need to control the valves it's all about the water temperature input to be as constant as possible using a few network pre-routing / feeding thing

also the launch is easy if you lower slighty the valves the re-up them once launched
(once you found your balance eliquibrium not to produce too much heat)

Early test

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1195044890

Current setup with passive steam cooling

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1195850911
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1195850884
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1196170388

@round day cycle close to 2000 i mostly run out of sand to dig from the map & i was in need of water purifying to refeed my network

(edit: typo & some copy/past links fix)

[PhailRaptor]

Found this blueprint on the official forums. Looks very interesting.

https://forums.kleientertainment.com/topic/82779-updated-the-compact-supercharged-10kgs-distiller/