Starting characters.

[Nephos]

Hello, fellow gamers. Do you guys spend lot of time rolling for the starting characters? Since I haven't get any members of good traits through rescue mission, I find it worthy of time to roll for a good starting team.

[MaxStr]

I always try to have someone with farming skill and someone with combat bonuses. I only reroll if I get super vanilla characters with no traits or too many undesirable trait combinations.

[spark.milanders]

Yes I reroll a lot I try for 2 fighters and a farmer but a survivalist or even priest with fighting skills will work. When I do a rescue mission and I get a loser I just reload the autosave from the begining of the rescue mission and try for a better guy. It does seem a little unbalanced because I get about 8/10 occultists and I already had like 5 of my 8 guys were occultists. I got obsessed with trying to get a fighter since I only had one of my 8 guys at the time was a fighter. I went on 3 different rescue missions and restarted them about 5 times each...never got a fighter just more occultists, engineers, priests. So annoying. Supposedly it's been balanced so you get what you have the least of but I think something is wrong in the programming because I have the most occultists and always get more.

[Nephos]

Originally posted by MaxStr:

I always try to have someone with farming skill and someone with combat bonuses. I only reroll if I get super vanilla characters with no traits or too many undesirable trait combinations.

I usually look for good fighters with three bonus traits, spook+body builder+healthy, which amounts to 155 starting health. However, I am unable to get a soldier+body builder+ healthy combo, for it will always followed by a fourth deficit of smoker or short sighted. I really can't stand fighter with smoker traits.

[Nephos]

Originally posted by spark.milanders:

Yes I reroll a lot I try for 2 fighters and a farmer but a survivalist or even priest with fighting skills will work. When I do a rescue mission and I get a loser I just reload the autosave from the begining of the rescue mission and try for a better guy. It does seem a little unbalanced because I get about 8/10 occultists and I already had like 5 of my 8 guys were occultists. I got obsessed with trying to get a fighter since I only had one of my 8 guys at the time was a fighter. I went on 3 different rescue missions and restarted them about 5 times each...never got a fighter just more occultists, engineers, priests. So annoying. Supposedly it's been balanced so you get what you have the least of but I think something is wrong in the programming because I have the most occultists and always get more.

I couldn't agree with you more. Even if i get fighters through rescue mission, he/she is at best with only one bonus trait. In most cases I would get priest or survivalist.

[Chaz Kensington]

I rolled for over 15 minutes earlier tonight. I love the traits and get stuck on waiting for the right trait combo or "making" certain individuals. For instance, I like to make the gothy Richmond from IT crowd to roll my occultist. Or maybe I want a character from Supernatural or any number of different genres. This game snagged that certain rare factor with the character creator in that way that a lot of games don't manage to achieve. I'd like to see even more options in the customization and would love to contribute faces for them!

[Nephos]

Originally posted by jonas3333:

I rolled for over 15 minutes earlier tonight. I love the traits and get stuck on waiting for the right trait combo or "making" certain individuals. For instance, I like to make the gothy Richmond from IT crowd to roll my occultist. Or maybe I want a character from Supernatural or any number of different genres. This game snagged that certain rare factor with the character creator in that way that a lot of games don't manage to achieve. I'd like to see even more options in the customization and would love to contribute faces for them!

It has good potential to roleplay. I don't expect there to be a starting character creator with more customization options. I just hope they could add a store option for character rolls which I could turn back to if I can't roll better results. For now, I just start the game ,make a backup save and then return to title screen to continue rolling when I run into some good results but not sure if I could get any better.

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by Red.Star.:

Hello, fellow gamers. Do you guys spend lot of time rolling for the starting characters? Since I haven't get any members of good traits through rescue mission, I find it worthy of time to roll for a good starting team.

not really Nope. Only reroll a few times to get 3 starting characters with no negatives and a decent spread of starting skills.

in my very 1st game, i rerolled for-eveer to get a dream team of fighters ; only to watch them struggle and eventually get wiped out hard. so now, i dont bother. haha.

i've only been playing on the ahrdest dificulty, and im in my 3rd game now. For some reason, i keep getting rekt. hehe.

[Nephos]

Originally posted by Diarmuhnd:

Originally posted by Red.Star.:

Hello, fellow gamers. Do you guys spend lot of time rolling for the starting characters? Since I haven't get any members of good traits through rescue mission, I find it worthy of time to roll for a good starting team.

not really Nope. Only reroll a few times to get 3 starting characters with no negatives and a decent spread of starting skills.

in my very 1st game, i rerolled for-eveer to get a dream team of fighters ; only to watch them struggle and eventually get wiped out hard. so now, i dont bother. haha.

i've only been playing on the ahrdest dificulty, and im in my 3rd game now. For some reason, i keep getting rekt. hehe.

Haven't try challenging mode. I'm playing forgiving mode. I must confess that I used to reload the autosave several time just for the sake of saving somebody's ass.

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by Red.Star.:

Haven't try challenging mode. I'm playing forgiving mode. I must confess that I used to reload the autosave several time just for the sake of saving somebody's ass.

welp .. you're saving yourself ALOT of frustration. I can NOT live past day 20-30 on that hardest setting.

I can not rush the better weapons needed, and I can Not maintain a steady turn around for scavenging missions & rescue missions.

it's my 3rd attempt now ... and i've tried 3 diferent strategies. They have all failed. Even " Buffy " can no longer hit enemy Succubus' anymore realiably (down to 35% now) ; and she has a pure combat build, and is my best equipped survivor.

i'm rage quitting for today ... or i may have anohter heart attack. lol. So... i'll give this hard setting one mroe try later tonight, or tomorrow... then if that fails ( i think it will fail ) i will try a slightly easier setting ... though i generally like playing games on the hardest settings.

oh yeah. and reloading no longer helps to save someone's a_s_s. :) they just keep dying in droves. LOL. :)

[Nephos]

Originally posted by Diarmuhnd:

Originally posted by Red.Star.:

Haven't try challenging mode. I'm playing forgiving mode. I must confess that I used to reload the autosave several time just for the sake of saving somebody's ass.

welp .. you're saving yourself ALOT of frustration. I can NOT live past day 20-30 on that hardest setting.

I can not rush the better weapons needed, and I can Not maintain a steady turn around for scavenging missions & rescue missions.

it's my 3rd attempt now ... and i've tried 3 diferent strategies. They have all failed. Even " Buffy " can no longer hit enemy Succubus' anymore realiably (down to 35% now) ; and she has a pure combat build, and is my best equipped survivor.

i'm rage quitting for today ... or i may have anohter heart attack. lol. So... i'll give this hard setting one mroe try later tonight, or tomorrow... then if that fails ( i think it will fail ) i will try a slightly easier setting ... though i generally like playing games on the hardest settings.

oh yeah. and reloading no longer helps to save someone's a_s_s. :) they just keep dying in droves. LOL. :)

Cheer up! Maybe play the forgiving mode for a little relax is not that bad. I have just started a game on challenge mode: it's just the third day and because I have done two rescue mission, my settlement awareness are rocketing to 60, the first horde is on the verge of breaking in. Haha, I don't know with 5 clubs, if these ragmen could survive the first attack.

[silencer4]

I would appriciate if we could re-roll individual characters.

[Nephos]

Originally posted by silencer4:

I would appriciate if we could re-roll individual characters.

Like the XCom where you can retrain your soldiers in Battle Academy.

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by Red.Star.:

Cheer up! Maybe play the forgiving mode for a little relax is not that bad. I have just started a game on challenge mode: it's just the third day and because I have done two rescue mission, my settlement awareness are rocketing to 60, the first horde is on the verge of breaking in. Haha, I don't know with 5 clubs, if these ragmen could survive the first attack.

roger roger. :) good luck.

i'll try again today .. i'm a sucker for punishment. hehe

[apples]

You can research the mutation skill in the demon rituals tree to alter character traits. Expensive but possible.

The game is a bit misleading: it suggests the demon attacks get harder over time (which they do...) but I found the single biggest factor for making attacks harder is building up your base too quickly, and adding on characters when you should be prepping your base. I try to aim at getting ranged weapons by the time i have 5 characters, and guard towers by six characters. This gameplay change means on challenging i now die around day 40-50 instead of day 15 ^_^.

Many forum posts note the difficulty spike. having a good fighter definitely helps, but note you also get some really powerful rescued survivor skills that cannot be rolled. there is a 'survivor' skill for the survivalist that gives something like +20% health, energy and attack speed to survivalist classes, and an 'exorcist' for occultist that gives strong occult weapon damage boosts. I haven't found unique skills for the other classes just yet...

[Diarmuhnd]

Originally posted by goldsass:

You can research the mutation skill in the demon rituals tree to alter character traits. Expensive but possible.

The game is a bit misleading: it suggests the demon attacks get harder over time (which they do...) but I found the single biggest factor for making attacks harder is building up your base too quickly, and adding on characters when you should be prepping your base.
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thanks for the tips.

That is what i ahve been doing wrong. I hve been increasing my survivors much to quickly. But, its almost hardwired into me to save as many people as possible, regardless of their 'worth' to the betterment of my encampment. Heck, i even research the Find More Survivors occult ability to facilitate that...

I feel dirty, leaving them to die alone instead of saving them. And it sure is neat seeing 30+ survivors scampering about by day 30 ... *cough

I have seen many of those special survivors (exorcist,, etc). I'll double check the other classes in my large pools of survivors; and see if there are better starting skills for some of them as well.