New player: WHAT IS GOING ON

[AnAngeryGoose]

So, I've only played for 5 hours now and I have many questions.

Am I doing something wrong? At least twice, I've been sent on a mission and by the time I return, the quest-giver is dead due to a faction war. I love the idea of factions warring as you play through the game, but are unfinishable quests a common side effect of this?

Also, on the mission to retrieve a man's heirloom rifle from a mutant-populated area, I overheard radio communications about me needing to be killed since I'm a witness. I assumed I missed what I supposedly witnessed and took out the snipers (merc faction). As I continued, another voice scolded me and said a helicopter was coming. The helicopter shot at the mercs for a few seconds before that same voice informed me that the chopper was down. Further on, a man began insisting not to come any closer or else he'll destroy the files.

Did I stumble into a main quest mission way beyond where I was meant to go? I have no idea what's going on...

[JoshKillin]

I don't know about the first part, I've never had any quest givers die on me, though I've heard of it happening.

The second part, I forget but the bandits/mercs/whatever in the Wild Territory are there trying to get information from those scientists with the downed helicopter or something like that, and the scientist is threatening to destroy the files to the mercs, not to you. You're supposed to help the scientists.

[Bugscuttle]

Keep trying to rescue the scientist. (Kruglov?) Life will be much easier for you later if he survives. You have a whole bunch of mercs to kill in your immediate future.
Enjoy!

[AnAngeryGoose]

Glad to hear my game isn't as messed up as it sounded.

[Bugscuttle]

No, it confused me plenty the 1st playthrough. And poor Kruglov died a few times before I figured out what was what.

[numsei]

dont worry with quest givers dying, your game wont stop or miss important stuff, no need to keep loading until you got the perfect setup or something like that

new players often dont understand that and keep getting mad at the game

[AnAngeryGoose]

Managed to take out the Mercs and save the scientist.

My entire reason to go there was to find a guy's family rifle, and it's not there. I followed the arrow to a set of three lockers. Two of them were empty, one had a stash containing three yellow medkits. The game insists the rifle is there, but I don't see it.

[numsei]

its underground, in an area with electric anomaly, its hard for me to explain in english, i think its some type of tunnel, its near the area where the mercs spawn (a construction building)

[Bugscuttle]

I think you're looking for the Family Rifle . It isn't a rifle at all, it looks like a Sawed-off Shotgun. If you find Gordon Freeman and his goodies, you are getting warmer.

[N0P3]

I have had quest givers die several times --one example was in the Garbage (twice in that location). As for the scientist --I think we all know where that went. Got to go back to the helicopter where the scientists were and look for a tunnel from there (inside) you'll find a few signature items (one of which you seek) and the other...

Been playing ShoC for a bit now and can say that sometimes the dialog has me guessing, but oddly it fits into the atmosphere & confusion surrounding the "Marked One." I've been playing with the Complete mod and the "Family Rifle" was a straight (looked like a single barrel) shotgun and was not sawed-off; based on everything else I've read the vanilla weapon is a sawed-off shotgun, but the weapon is a shotgun regardless.

[AnAngeryGoose]

Found it. I didn't think of searching the underground areas since the map is two dimensional and there was a stash just above.

The family rifle did just look like any other sawed-off shotgun.

[Bugscuttle]

First time I got the Family 'Rifle' I forgot I had it and sold it as a looted shotgun. RELOAD!

[andysoldier]

Still can't find this family rifle. Have looked in the tunnel, there is one large red container open with a secure box in there - there is a pistol (called Big Ben) in there, no rifle, no sawn off shot gun anywhere in the tunnel.

[vlad[54rus]]

Originally posted by andysoldier:

Still can't find this family rifle. Have looked in the tunnel, there is one large red container open with a secure box in there - there is a pistol (called Big Ben) in there, no rifle, no sawn off shot gun anywhere in the tunnel.

There is another container right next to that, climb over garbage and you'll find family rifle.

[Snark]

Originally posted by vlad54rus:

Originally posted by andysoldier:

Still can't find this family rifle. Have looked in the tunnel, there is one large red container open with a secure box in there - there is a pistol (called Big Ben) in there, no rifle, no sawn off shot gun anywhere in the tunnel.

There is another container right next to that, climb over garbage and you'll find family rifle.

This is true, it is the grey/whitish container. I went in there before and due to the dark didn't even notice it.

[Firestorm🗿]

Yeah, the family rifle quest was a right headscratcher for me...
Had to roll back an hour or so because I absent-mindedly dropped it while going full klepto on some bandit bodies...