Fastest way to level thralls in creative mode?

[generalking007]

I'm building a giant castle and I need archers for all the walls and palace guards for the inside and I want them all max level. I have mods so the max is 100, but console commands only get them to 20. Is there a faster way to get them leveled up?

So far I have tried building a pit out of foundations, filling it with explosive jars and giant crocodiles, and then blowing the jars up. but that does not kill all the crocs and I can only level 6 at a time that way. I tried just spawning enemies and having the thralls fight them, or shoot them from range, but this also is slow even if I put them in a pit surrounded by archer thralls i'm levelling, and if i have them fight in melee its still too easy to overwhelm them by being impatient, costing me some levelled thralls.

looking for good suggestions to make this less grindy, as i have a good 50 more archers and god knows how many internal fighter guards to try and level.

[Oni]

Kill the stygian raid commander in combat with the follower left behind at the nearby ruins.
Also the fastest way to gather information: search on the internet first!

[generalking007]

Originally posted by Oni:

Kill the stygian raid commander in combat with the follower left behind at the nearby ruins.
Also the fastest way to gather information: search on the internet first!

I've googled this a few times, and so far it's just "bringem while farming" which is less useful them I'd like, especially in creative mode. I'm levelling large numbers of thralls for guard posts. With this sidekick mod I can share XP with six thralls at a time but its till a bit grindy with the numbers I'm dealing with.

I pretty clearly outlined various things I have tried already, so clearly I tried to figure this out other ways then asking here, no need to be snarky.

[Oraorao]

why not use console command ? bam max level

[cattibria]

Thralls do not gain experience when you are in creative mode. I have made that mistake often enough on my own. it is that way since the mobs cannot damage you.

[generalking007]

Originally posted by Oraorao:

why not use console command ? bam max level

Originally posted by generalking007:

I have mods so the max is 100, but console commands only get them to 20. Is there a faster way to get them leveled up?

[generalking007]

Originally posted by cattibria:

Thralls do not gain experience when you are in creative mode. I have made that mistake often enough on my own. it is that way since the mobs cannot damage you.

ive managed to get them some levels, ether by having them fight enemies on their own, or by mass slaughtering high level npc's, but its a slow process. ill see if turning off creative mode helps

[generalking007]

Originally posted by wapatos:

The mod is to give fun beyond level 20, not to make the game hardcore.
You have to consider several different things in console like stats.
Level 20 is enough and not the first.

cool. that's not an answer to my question, that's a criticism of me asking it at all. its not helpful.

[EthanT]

The Stygian Commander in AlMeriyah gives like 75 million xp so its an instant max level.

[generalking007]

Originally posted by EthanT:

The Stygian Commander in AlMeriyah gives like 75 million xp so its an instant max level.

is there a way to spawn him in with the admin menu?

not the end of the world if no but i couldn't find his name in the NPC list

[cattibria]

Originally posted by generalking007:

is there a way to spawn him in with the admin menu?

not the end of the world if no but i couldn't find his name in the NPC list

He is one of several special ones that are not in the Admin spawn menu. If you are in the SP game, just make sure you have some battering rams in your bag ready to equip. Fly to the level just below the top of the central keep, bust through two walls and you are there. The thralls will teleport to you.

Just an FYI, I think the amount of experience he gives is a known issue. I expect it will be patched with the hotfix due out after the 1st of the year.

[generalking007]

Originally posted by cattibria:

Originally posted by generalking007:

is there a way to spawn him in with the admin menu?

not the end of the world if no but i couldn't find his name in the NPC list

He is one of several special ones that are not in the Admin spawn menu. If you are in the SP game, just make sure you have some battering rams in your bag ready to equip. Fly to the level just below the top of the central keep, bust through two walls and you are there. The thralls will teleport to you.

Just an FYI, I think the amount of experience he gives is a known issue. I expect it will be patched with the hotfix due out after the 1st of the year.

with teleporting and creative mode, i can get in, place 12 explosive jars, and kill him in about 15 seconds.

this is a lot faster then my pit of crocodiles method, very helpful.

[generalking007]

OK, last post here from me for posterity.

when you spawn him in with console commands the raid commander has like less then a tenth of his health, so if you put all your brand new thralls in a pit and spawn him in like 30 at a time, you can level 10-15 thralls at max level per spawn of the raid commander. Then you just pull out any thralls that levelled up and spawn another 30 or so raid commanders, depending on how many thralls you are levelling.

you need a decent sized pit, i did a 6 by 6 pit surrounded by a 3 high foundation wall, but some of the raid commanders get stuck in the wall so you might want to make it a bit on the bigger side.

no guarantee this will work if they fix his XP levels but for now at least its a great trick in creative.

[Aurelia]

Originally posted by generalking007:

Originally posted by cattibria:

He is one of several special ones that are not in the Admin spawn menu. If you are in the SP game, just make sure you have some battering rams in your bag ready to equip. Fly to the level just below the top of the central keep, bust through two walls and you are there. The thralls will teleport to you.

Just an FYI, I think the amount of experience he gives is a known issue. I expect it will be patched with the hotfix due out after the 1st of the year.

with teleporting and creative mode, i can get in, place 12 explosive jars, and kill him in about 15 seconds.

this is a lot faster then my pit of crocodiles method, very helpful.

So multiple suggestions here...
First, in admin mode, not only can you just ghost/fly through everything, but if you want to be on foot, you can just dismantle any piece of that castle you want with the construction hammer.

Secondly, go to settings, combat, and turn player damage to 10.0, aswell as npc damage taken to 10.0 (be careful with npc damage taken to 10 though, since that will effect your thralls too. Keep them in a safe place), then spawn yourself in a legendary weapon and you will insta-gib pretty much everything.

Thirdly, turn up player exp gain to 10.0. Exp to thralls is based on the exp you gain as a player (even at alevel 60), but also no exp is granted to the player when in creative mode, and followers gain exp based on the amount of exp you as a player are granted, so if you want to level them, disable creative mode. You can still keep godmode on yourself to prevent you from taking any damage,

Aside from that exp bug with the commander, getting them to level 100 is still going to take time. If they ever do fix that, the best you can do is mass spawn in enemies of high exp/hp ratio. You can probably find a list of enemies and their exp if you search for them. I remember finding one that worked pretty well, but don't remember where it is. Make sure thrall dmg to npcs is 10, npc damage taken to 1.0 (since that could negatively effect your thralls), player exp and damage dealt to 10. Then let the gauntlet of blood ensue..