Team Fortress 2
MvM Canteen Bug
I just completed my first mission in Two Cities, Metro Malice, as an Engineer. Most of the time, when I bought upgrade building canteens and took my teleporter back to the front, the canteens would disappear, taking the money I spent with them. It wasn't just when I took the teleporter either: sometimes the canteens would disappear in the middle of the wave, or after I used one to rebuild my stuff, which would cause all 3 to disappear. As an Engineer, those build canteens are essential, so you can imagine how annoying it was to have to do some waves without building canteens, especially wave 3.

It's not limited to Engineer, either. Our Medic had a few Uber canteens just in case, and every time he took my teleporter, checked someone else's upgrades or deployed a kritz uber, the canteens would disappear, with no money refunded or anything. We still beat the mission, but only because I got lucky with my build canteens not disappearing on the final wave.

This didn't happen 100% of the time, but it happened often enough to be annoying, probably about 70% of the time. Has anyone else had this happen?
Last edited by The Creepy Cupcake; Dec 7, 2013 @ 1:51pm
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wux Dec 7, 2013 @ 2:00pm 
Had it happen a couple of times both with engi using build canteens and random class using uber/kritz/ammo canteens.

There's also some bug i've had a couple of times where dispensers and teles built mid round don't always get the health bonus from the building health upgrade. Doesn't appear to happen all the time or for any reason either.
Originally posted by -9m- wux:
Had it happen a couple of times both with engi using build canteens and random class using uber/kritz/ammo canteens.

There's also some bug i've had a couple of times where dispensers and teles built mid round don't always get the health bonus from the building health upgrade. Doesn't appear to happen all the time or for any reason either.

I noticed that too. I thought I had unconciously upgraded them.
The Killer Duck Dec 7, 2013 @ 2:02pm 
I have a soloution: Do not press f. If you do so, you will lose canteens and money will not be given back to you.

A bug that needs to be fixed urgently.
Crim Dec 7, 2013 @ 2:45pm 
It's not only canteens, i just played a mission on mannhattan and it kept pushing me back out of the store. It took my credits as well, i didn't get any upgrades that i bought. 900+ credits gone in 2 waves... Canteens disapear on me all the time, even without pressing "F" to inspect someone. That glitch first happened to me over a year ago, and it's still here...

Oh and one more bug that i had many times - playing as pyro (or any other class) and buying uber canteens. Right after leaving the store - those canteens turn into "upgrade building" ...

Fix the damn game already.
Last edited by Crim; Dec 7, 2013 @ 9:24pm
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. It only seems to happen on Mannhatten, so I guess I'm doing Rottenburg until it's fixed.


Originally posted by The Killer Duck:
I have a soloution: Do not press f. If you do so, you will lose canteens and money will not be given back to you.

A bug that needs to be fixed urgently.

It'd not just when I check upgrades: it happens at complete random during a wave. Even if I don't even touch the X key the canteens still disappear.

I really hope it's fixed soon, because it's pretty difficult to play Engie without at least 1 build canteen being needed.
StarfishAtLarge Dec 7, 2013 @ 7:25pm 
Same here. F = Instant Canteen Loss.
The Killer Duck Dec 8, 2013 @ 5:18am 
Originally posted by Pingas Cupcake:
Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one with this problem. It only seems to happen on Mannhatten, so I guess I'm doing Rottenburg until it's fixed.


Originally posted by The Killer Duck:
I have a soloution: Do not press f. If you do so, you will lose canteens and money will not be given back to you.

A bug that needs to be fixed urgently.

It'd not just when I check upgrades: it happens at complete random during a wave. Even if I don't even touch the X key the canteens still disappear.

I really hope it's fixed soon, because it's pretty difficult to play Engie without at least 1 build canteen being needed.
It only happens to me when I press F.

A same thing happens, as demoman. I press f as him to imspect, only to buy Building canteens.
Paleonix Mar 7, 2014 @ 2:22pm 
This happens to me 70% of the time when a wave starts, but I am luckily getting my money back all the time. But then I have to run back to the base to get new ones in the middle of a wave :/
Karl Pilkington (Banned) Mar 7, 2014 @ 2:30pm 
yes, very surprised that this hasn't been fixed yet.

solutions i've been told that work. i've been using them and things have been bug free, since.

if an ally takes your teleporter while you are trying to buy stuff, you will get yanked out of the menu, and lose your upgrades but the money will be lost . destroy your tele between waves and rebuild it when you are done buying. be careful when buying mid wave and do it as fast as possible. (typically i only buy canteens mid wave )

inspecting other players makes your canteens disappear.

having a strange PDA apparently makes this worse but i haven't noticed. as long as i destroy my tele and do not inspect others as engineer, i've been able to play without the bugs affecting me.
Last edited by Karl Pilkington; Mar 7, 2014 @ 2:40pm
Still happens.
Soldier Claus Jul 7, 2014 @ 7:30am 
This is one of those bugs that Valve always says they fixed and they didn't. It happens most often with canteens and most often with Engineer, but I've lost upgrades that' I've actually had since previous waves before.

And, yes, to be safe, do not press f. If you must press f, check your upgrades immediately afterward and run back to the counter if necessary.

Basically, Engineer is one of the most glitched classes in the game mode. There's also the thing where it checks you out of the upgrade station if someone takes your teleporter, gets healed by your dispenser, etc.
StarfishAtLarge Jul 7, 2014 @ 8:24am 
Originally posted by ☂ CAR_:
This is one of those bugs that Valve always says they fixed and they didn't. It happens most often with canteens and most often with Engineer, but I've lost upgrades that' I've actually had since previous waves before.

And, yes, to be safe, do not press f. If you must press f, check your upgrades immediately afterward and run back to the counter if necessary.

Basically, Engineer is one of the most glitched classes in the game mode. There's also the thing where it checks you out of the upgrade station if someone takes your teleporter, gets healed by your dispenser, etc.

It's been happening less often for me, though.
Jet Jul 7, 2014 @ 8:33am 
Same call here. The inspect button ♥♥♥♥♥ me up.
EyeOculus Jul 7, 2014 @ 8:44am 
I was confused. I totally forgot that bug exists...
Mhh... not using canteens anymore in MvM could be the cause i forgot that bug.

But yeah. Valve fixes like Tauntslide, Civilian Glitch with taunts (Tried it with Spy, but.. i don't get it to work) And even the ultimate "Stand on Head" block. But still, Valve cannot fix that bug.
Last edited by EyeOculus; Jul 7, 2014 @ 8:44am
Littlefoot Jul 7, 2014 @ 12:12pm 
This happens for me occasionally, extremely annoying. Having your sentry destroyed and then being forced to build it from scratch when the robots are nearing the hatch is not fun because the canteens just disappeared.

maybe i have to report it to Valve.
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