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Randy Feb 2, 2014 @ 7:15pm
Ambassador Vs. Diamondback Vs. Revolver
I recently got a Strange Diamondback and I have a Strange Revolver. What do you guys think is the best? People seem to prefer the ambassador, but the diamondback's crits for backstabs is really alluring. What should I pick?
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I am alive!! (Banned) Feb 2, 2014 @ 7:16pm 
Ambassador if you're good at aiming
Diamondback if you tend to get a lot of backstabs in 1 life
Revolver if you don't care about crits :P
Randy Feb 2, 2014 @ 7:18pm 
Originally posted by Flippy:
Ambassador if you're good at aiming
Diamondback if you tend to get a lot of backstabs in 1 life
Revolver if you don't care about crits :P

This is pretty much what I was thinking. I was thinking of selling my Diamondback and getting a Strange Wrench and Medi Gun.
Jatayu Feb 2, 2014 @ 7:19pm 
Enforcer for an overall high damage output
L'tranger if you want to play a stealthier playstyle
Ambassador is a bit iffy and it doesn't encourage any type of gameplay
Diamondback makes a good hit-and-run weapon and playstyle
And Revolver generally is overshadowed by everything else.
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Kai Feb 2, 2014 @ 7:25pm 
From my experience,

Amby for reliability once you learn to aim,
DiamondBack for stocking up easy kritz, but not quite as reliable,
Enforcer for taking out buildings,
L'tranger if you want more cloak time and don't intend to use your gun unless needed,
And I agree, Revolver for that chance for a stronger random krit i guess.
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yin Feb 18, 2014 @ 6:03pm 
Each revolver is a matter of personal preference, so once you main one the rest becomes situational.

Ambassador: Assassination and Elimination
Revolver: Self-Defense and Aggressiveness
L'Etranger: Infiltration and an Escape Plan
Diamondback: Alternative to the Ambassador and a Saboteur gun
con artist Feb 18, 2014 @ 6:24pm 
If the other team is using minis, there is absolutely no reason to not use diamondback. You can usually get about 3 crits off of minis alone, added on to whatever backstabs you get. Your choice in revolver also depends on your choice in knife. A powerful revolver, like amby or diamondback is good for Spy-Cicle so you have a good option when it melts, if you're doing conniver's kunai or YER, then L'etranger can make your cloak far more useful, and considering that those 2 rely on smart usage of cloak, it makes a good choice. I despise Big Earner, so I can't say much for that, and all revolvers work well with stock, so take that into consideration.
Cassidy Feb 18, 2014 @ 6:26pm 
In my opinion, the l'etranger is the best if you want to be more stealth-oriented than usual, and easily run through large maps with plenty of cloak time.

If you want a more of an aggressive style, use the amby. The diamondback is an alternative, but I wouldn't recommend it unless there are lots of engi buildings around.

Getting crits anytime if you aim well is better than getting crits after backstabbing someone/sapping a building.
I am alive!! (Banned) Feb 18, 2014 @ 6:59pm 
Originally posted by Apple 3.14:
Each revolver is a matter of personal preference, so once you main one the rest becomes situational.

Ambassador: Assassination and Elimination
Revolver: Self-Defense and Aggressiveness
L'Etranger: Infiltration and an Escape Plan
Diamondback: Alternative to the Ambassador and a Saboteur gun
Dat necro tho
After the buff, there's pretty much no reason to use the Revolver anymore. You can't rely on random crits, and the damage penalty on the Amby/Diamond is so trivial in actuality that you really don't need the small boost in damage just to have a 'trusty' sidegun. Good aim, you use the amby. Stay alive and kill alot? You use the Diamond. Enforcer is kind of like a secondary stock Revolver, and really feels like you're punching holes through enemies when you 2-shot scouts. I hate L'tarder, so I'm not going to comment on that one.
Last edited by Joshua "Fries" Block; Feb 18, 2014 @ 7:07pm
BODKIN Feb 18, 2014 @ 7:41pm 
Enforcer is the best. I mean, its a roarin twenties snub-nose police revolver!
♫ Chicago ♫ Feb 18, 2014 @ 7:45pm 
Ambassodor for some real quick long range damage without blowing your cover that much. You don't have to go out and get a backstab to use it.
Pox. Feb 18, 2014 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by Flippy:
Ambassador if you're good at aiming
Diamondback if you tend to get a lot of backstabs in 1 life
Revolver if you don't care about crits :P
I recommend Diamond back for advanced players,Ambassasdor is a quick kill, while normal revolver is perfect for making enemys weak then go with the knife. All is good if you know how to use em properly
Littlefoot Apr 6, 2014 @ 3:34am 
I use Ambassador 99% of the time. Those headshots are very helpful, you can shoot engineers and leave them with little health left. I've even been able to headshot heavies, and kill them (though do it from a distance).

If i feel i have a bad day where i can't aim well or play on BLU on attack/defend and payload, then i use the diamondback. Crits from backstabbing and sapping buildings can be useful if you're discovered and have to retreat.

I never use the stock revolver unless i'm forced to.
I don't think I'll say much that hasn't been covered previously, but here goes.

Let's assume you have perfect aim with all revolvers. Even in this situation, the ambassador is still not the best in every imaginable situation, which seems to be poular belief.
Revolver, enforcer, andd diamondbackk are superior in self defense situations(somebody sees a stab, for example). The enforcer and revolver lack the ability to exploit small windows of oppurtunity like the ambassador can. The enforcer gets a lot of hate, but it's balanced.(equal dps to revolver, you just don't have to hit as many times). The ambassador lets you take down isolated targets, but I really think it's overrated. You give up a noticabble chunk of your self-defense abilities in exchange for the ability to headshot, which takes time to line up and rarely deals enough damage to matter. Diamondback is my personal favorite because it's basically a cross between the revolver and ambassador, providing moderate self defense with no stored crits, but the stored crit from a stab plus a bodyshot or two should be enough to finish off anybody who may have seen you. I strongly dislike its model, and it has a noticable firing noise. It pairs particularly well with the kunai(favorite knife) because crits + health buff makes a great combo and will get you out of many situations unharmed. I remember a particular instance on plr_pipeline when I was using that loadout. I approached the enemy cart from behind but was seen my a pyro and ignited I then backstabbed the heavy, extinguishing myself, killed his medic with the diamondback crit, then ran away with the cloak. I'm not a huge fan of the L'etranger- I think it would be much more powerful if it had a 100% damage penalty. It may seem wierd at first but when you think about it you would be able to fully recharge cloak and move around the map like some kind of ninja because foes would never know you were shooting them. of course, you would sacrifice all non-stab combat abilites for extreme mobility and fleeing power.
That's all and please let me know what you think.
Jesus, that was longer than I thought. Sorry for the wall of text..
tl;dr Diamondback is most well-rounded, everything else is so situational it's not worth equipping it for a whole life.







cone Apr 8, 2014 @ 6:40pm 
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