It astonishes me how ignorant some people are.

[Mcfighter2]

I was playing as spy in a match when a pyro used the Homewrecker on a sapper when I had already killed the engineer. I got salty and told the pyro that the homewrecker is unfair and that he shouldn't have a weapon that hard counters spy when pyro can already do that naturally. He replies saying that pyro should be able to do this and that "this is TEAM fortress 2."
What? He's saying that the weapon with virtually no downsides to the pyro is good for team play? One that can counter the last thing spy can do against the engineer? One that limits options and nullifies one of the most core class interactions in the game, spy vs engie? For a class that is already limited in use? THAT is healthy for the game? I think that thought is stupid!

[druuu]

OP needs to cope harder.

[BeefyBearded]

Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

Publicado originalmente por Guilion:

The pyro did excellent.
Weeaboos deserve no quarter, you should've been kicked for playing spy.

I'm not a weeb

I think he meant Dweeb* cuz thats what you are, youre a dweeb

[Mcfighter2]

Publicado originalmente por FikaFellatio:

Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

I'm not a weeb

I think he meant Dweeb* cuz thats what you are, youre a dweeb

*dweeaboo

[Mcfighter2]

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Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

Indeed he relies on mistakes, but the Homewrecker nullifies the mistakes the Engineer makes of not noticing the spy, not killing the spy, and being killed himself. How is that fair on the spy's part?

Since its a team based game someone corrected his mistake, albeit a pyro no longer in combat and positioned away from the battle. In your part someone could utilize a damaged nest or have made a small advance to finish. In other words teammwork I suppose.

The only time taken away from combat is for hitting the building once, which takes little time, especially if the pyro is close to his teammates anyways, either defending an objective or preparing to push (think Borneo last on Red or Upward last on Blu).
Plus, correcting the engineer's mistake took no skill, no risk, and holds practically zero downsides because the homewrecker is a melee weapon, not a primary or a secondary, on a class that is encouraged to use his primary at very close range.
So a weapon with no downsides nearly invalidates the use of one of spy's signature weapons. This is not fair.

[Mcfighter2]

Publicado originalmente por druuu:

OP needs to cope harder.

Ok, defend the Homewrecker then instead of just mindlessly saying "cope".

[The destoyer of worlsd!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

Plus, correcting the engineer's mistake took no skill, no risk, and holds practically zero downsides because the homewrecker is a melee weapon, not a primary or a secondary, on a class that is encouraged to use his primary at very close range.

No downsides? You're giving up the ability to use the Powerjack, which is very useful whenever you aren't in combat

[DarkCrystalMethod]

It makes Spy mains whine. Mission accomplished.

[❤️ Emi (she/her) ❤]

its teamwork in a game with the name team on it.

[Mcfighter2]

Publicado originalmente por ❤️ Emi (she/her) ❤:

its teamwork in a game with the name team on it.

Ok, what if we added a passive secondary for the Heavy that stores uber from a friendly Medic that had just died? That would promote teamwork between a team's Heavy and Medic by allowing him to save his medic's mistake! Its downside is that it's not the Sandvich! Perfect!

[Mcfighter2]

Publicado originalmente por DarkChrystmasMethod:

It makes Spy mains whine. Mission accomplished.

Give a real reason why it's fine for the game.

[The destoyer of worlsd!!!]

Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

Publicado originalmente por ❤️ Emi (she/her) ❤:

its teamwork in a game with the name team on it.

Ok, what if we added a passive secondary for the Heavy that stores uber from a friendly Medic that had just died? That would promote teamwork between a team's Heavy and Medic by allowing him to save his medic's mistake! Its downside is that it's not the Sandvich! Perfect!

The difference between that and the Homewrecker is that it would presumably be overpowered due to synergizing with one of the most powerful abilities of the best class in the game. The Homewrecker, on the other hand, just makes you a little better at bullying the worst one (which you already have an amazing matchup against) and therefore isn't really worth picking over its competition

Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

Publicado originalmente por DarkChrystmasMethod:

It makes Spy mains whine. Mission accomplished.

Give a real reason why it's fine for the game.

Spies don't really deserve to exist in the first place, so insulting them with the Homewrecker's existence is a nice touch

[Gena Cider]

lol

[skooma]

wait till you hear what the neon annihilator can do

genuine skill issue tho

[Mcfighter2]

Publicado originalmente por THE DESTOYER OF WORLSD!!!:

The difference between that and the Homewrecker is that it would presumably be overpowered due to synergizing with one of the most powerful abilities of the best class in the game. The Homewrecker, on the other hand, just makes you a little better at bullying the worst one (which you already have an amazing matchup against) and therefore isn't really worth picking over its competition

So the mere fact that some unlocks are better than the Homewrecker makes it fine? That's wrong. It's not fun to fight against and thus makes no sense to be in the game.

Publicado originalmente por THE DESTOYER OF WORLSD!!!:

Publicado originalmente por Mcfighter2:

Give a real reason why it's fine for the game.

Spies don't really deserve to exist in the first place, so insulting them with the Homewrecker's existence is a nice touch

Please stop trolling.

[Mcfighter2]

Publicado originalmente por skooma:

wait till you hear what the neon annihilator can do

genuine skill issue tho

You're right! The Homewrecker is for engineers that have genuinely no skill and let themselves get caught out by the weakest class in the game.
If you're taking about a spy skill issue, what are you talking about? Do you mean to say that the spy should be killing both the engineer and the pyro to secure a building destroyed?