Why do people hate the Black Box so much?

[Slumdog]

It doesn't seem that great to me imo.

[Slumdog]

Originally posted by Ninja Turtle Reject:

It's a crutch.

How?

[Dire]

Originally posted by Uncle Benp Aker:

It doesn't seem that great to me imo.

Because they get killed by good soldiers who use it.

[Charlie5L]

*ahem*

"Soldiers who use the Black Box are unskilled and crutch needed"
"The Black Box is overpowered!"
"I hate fighting against a Soldier who gains up to a max of 20 health even though I have more ammo than they ever will."
"They have no skill."
"They have no skill."
"They have no skill."
"They have no skill."
"Black Box is for people who can't fight."

Those are the common reasons why people hate it. I honestly don't care using it or not. My motto for using any weapon or item in TF2, even if people hate it:

"Whatever gets the job done."

[trash]

Originally posted by Ninja Turtle Reject:

Bad Soldiers cannot get health through normal means, so they use the health gain as a crutch, it actually sucks as an offensive weapon, which is what Soldier is.

yeah obviously the soldier's fault that the team's med is fresh out of roblox and doesn't know how to switch weapons

[communism will win]

They don't know what airblast is.

[Ron Paul]

Originally posted by Purple:

They don't know what nekopara is.

[shen]

Black box by itself is quite a good weapon. But paired with the Concheror and a pocket medic creates a load of salt.

[Karina]

I hate black box soldiers when i play medic. Espicially when i end up pocketing black box soldier with a conch, because he is only competent person in a team. Its weaking soldier damage potential while giving nothing in return (you have medic on your team). It is like huge middle finger to my face "F-uck you, i dont trust you healing me, i rather do it myself". Only thing more annoying is ignorant jumping soldiers, who will rocket jump away from you when they see potential target to bomb, leaving you alone to fight scouts/pyros/spys/whatever. I end up ignoring such soldiers when they crawl back to me, spamming E while dying from afterburn.

[Coffee]

it's not the worst but it is annoying to fight not completely infuriating but more just a thorn in your side

[Mr. Pink]

Because you can kill with it and it's not stock. Basically

[Tramuntana]

Originally posted by pablopyromain99:

yeah obviously the soldier's fault that the team's med is fresh out of roblox and doesn't know how to switch weapons

It IS his fault if he doesn't like how the Medic is playing and doesn't go Medic himself.

Originally posted by Esteban Failsmore:

I hate black box soldiers when i play medic. Espicially when i end up pocketing black box soldier with a conch, because he is only competent person in a team. Its weaking soldier damage potential while giving nothing in return (you have medic on your team). It is like huge middle finger to my face "F-uck you, i dont trust you healing me, i rather do it myself". Only thing more annoying is ignorant jumping soldiers, who will rocket jump away from you when they see potential target to bomb, leaving you alone to fight scouts/pyros/spys/whatever. I end up ignoring such soldiers when they crawl back to me, spamming E while dying from afterburn.

THIS. The only difference, is that I typically use my Shadenfaude when they reach the single digits in HP.

[eMercody]

It is a crutch giving up a rocket for some regen. It’s less effective but easier to use.

Well, people just hate crutches because their skill or lack of was invalidated or something.

[absolute fibbery]

Originally posted by Esteban Failsmore:

I hate black box soldiers when i play medic. Espicially when i end up pocketing black box soldier with a conch, because he is only competent person in a team. Its weaking soldier damage potential while giving nothing in return (you have medic on your team). It is like huge middle finger to my face "F-uck you, i dont trust you healing me, i rather do it myself". Only thing more annoying is ignorant jumping soldiers, who will rocket jump away from you when they see potential target to bomb, leaving you alone to fight scouts/pyros/spys/whatever. I end up ignoring such soldiers when they crawl back to me, spamming E while dying from afterburn.

Self proclaimed soldier medics are the best.

I only see the justifiable reason as to why you should use the black box and conch is when you have no medic. I don't see it as crutch as having one rocket is critical for picking medics, two-three rockets to kill the medic and one-two to escape. Your giving up on a essential escape tool or a good 100~ dmg rocket for tanking/survival

[For Whom The Bee Trolls]

thanks for the necro.

anyhow, its just a bad weapon. any half decent soldier should be able to manage their health. all it does is give bad soldiers a way to stay in the fight, while hindering their rocket jumping and damage output skills, and lowering the skill cap and potential of said skills.