Conjurer any good?

[flyingoffthetrack]

I have a Wizard Fane and a Fighter Red Prince. What might be a good class for Ifan to assume to balance this growing team? I'm thinking either Conjurer or Metamorph because they both sound cool. Bad move?

[Nintz]

I can't speak to Metamorph, but I can say Conjurer is VERY good in my experience so far. The class does not rely on any of the damage attributes, allowing you to get a bunch of CON MEM or WIT instead. You effecitvely become a solid DPS with a ton of damage mitigation and utility potential.

As for Wizard/Fighter, the only thing I would reccomend is to make sure you get a healer in there somewhere. Fane obv won't benefit but for the other 3 it'll be quite nice. You can take a point in hydrosophist on a conjurer and have them pull double duty, but your somewhat limited combat points mean your heals won't get insane.

Another option would be enchater (Hydrosophist/Aerothurge). You could also do both, if you think you'll have enough damage later in the game.

[flyingoffthetrack]

Originally posted by Nintz:

I can't speak to Metamorph, but I can say Conjurer is VERY good in my experience so far. The class does not rely on any of the damage attributes, allowing you to get a bunch of CON MEM or WIT instead. You effecitvely become a solid DPS with a ton of damage mitigation and utility potential.

As for Wizard/Fighter, the only thing I would reccomend is to make sure you get a healer in there somewhere. Fane obv won't benefit but for the other 3 it'll be quite nice. You can take a point in hydrosophist on a conjurer and have them pull double duty, but your somewhat limited combat points mean your heals won't get insane.

Another option would be enchater (Hydrosophist/Aerothurge). You could also do both, if you think you'll have enough damage later in the game.

Hmmm. Great reply. You had me totally gunning for Conjurer until the healing thing cropped up. Although you can get 4 party members, right? How about I take Conjurer now for my third character, and go for an Enchanter for whoever my fourth will be? Or is it best to get a healer early on?

[SenseSei]

You get your 4man party relatively quick as soon as you reach Fort Joy (after the boat).
Every origin charackter which you currently dont have in your party will show up somewhere in the city

[Nintz]

If you go Wizard/Fighter/Conjurer/Enchanter you should have a ton of crowd control and utility, and it will be very difficult to kill you (comparitively). The biggest issue I see is that if Fane does happen to go down or otherwise be out of position, your damage potential plummets. Conjurers do solid DPS, but it isn't a true DPS class per se. Enchanter is similar. If you take your time the party should be able to do all right at least through Act 1 though, and you can fully respec anyone at will once you reach act 2 anyways. So if you have damage issues you can fix it then.

[flyingoffthetrack]

Good call. I went Enchanter for Ifan and I'll roll Conjurer for the 4th. As you say I'll be able to respec soon enough if this four-man party doesn't happen to work out. Although it seems as though I've got a good spread of skills and so I optimistic!

[Nintz]

Yep. And don't forget you can give other characters different skill poitns if you want to mix and match a bit

[flyingoffthetrack]

I forgot about the fact there are other character and you can swap them out- that might prove to be useful. Do characters not in your party still level up?

[Wither]

It can use skill which you don't have to put on your companion.
And it has taunt. You can use your warrior or ranger to remove enemy armour, tuant, and run to explosive barrel or surface.

[Enor]

Ifan makes a better conjurer than an enchanter. Main reason being is his source power ( summons wolf ) scales with level AND summoning skill. It is pretty bad ass. Hopefully it gets more abilities later on though.

[Nintz]

Originally posted by Enor:

Ifan makes a better conjurer than an enchanter. Main reason being is his source power ( summons wolf ) scales with level AND summoning skill. It is pretty bad ass. Hopefully it gets more abilities later on though.

But then you can't use incarnate right? Since you can only have 1 summon/character at a time?

[Nintz]

Originally posted by flyingoffthetrack:

I forgot about the fact there are other character and you can swap them out- that might prove to be useful. Do characters not in your party still level up?

I think so, though I've heard dismissing party members does give a relation hit.

[flyingoffthetrack]

Originally posted by Nintz:

Originally posted by Enor:

Ifan makes a better conjurer than an enchanter. Main reason being is his source power ( summons wolf ) scales with level AND summoning skill. It is pretty bad ass. Hopefully it gets more abilities later on though.

But then you can't use incarnate right? Since you can only have 1 summon/character at a time?

Damn now I'm curious about this.

[Iry]

Hydro + Summoner is an amazing support character. I took Glass Cannon and hang out near the back of the formation. With the extra action points, I can always get a totem out every turn, and have extra AP to throw out healing or just attack with a wand.

Constitution + Wits is working very well. Even in an ambush I win initiative and then Totem + Incarnate + Infusion + Encourage. And when I go first on the next round I can Totem + Heal.

[Dragonwaz]

Originally posted by flyingoffthetrack:

Originally posted by Nintz:

But then you can't use incarnate right? Since you can only have 1 summon/character at a time?

Damn now I'm curious about this.

I know I'm late but he's right Ifan is the best Conjurer out of the party mates that I know of, Lohse is a good Enchanter from what I've heard too. Beast is the best fighter, but Red prince can work fighter too.

[Jack Kane]

beast also makes a good rogue.