Developers hate Lizards?

[^DreeMax^]

As a player who prefer lovely lizards characters I prefer to play them.
But compared to other races they are simply have nothing original.
+10 resist to fire and poison, +1 to persuasion, and dragon fire...
While elfs have damage boost and extra point, can read memories from parts of body.
Undead characters can play dead. Lets not count undead lizard, its pretty same to rest undeads.
Dwarfs have +5 more dodge, +10% extra hp.
Humans have extra 5% crit chance and +2 initiative. And party buff of basic stats.

Do I miss something? I mean for me lizards have worst possible standard abilities...

[Hobocop]

I just pick Lizards because they have the best looking armor at pretty much every stage of the game, barring some helmets. The racial Dragon Breath is decent even on physical specialists as a ready source of magic damage for 1AP, which comes in handy sometimes.

Race choice outside of Elf because Flesh Sacrifice is stupid good and Undead because Undead barely matters from a mechanical standpoint, anyway.

[Iry]

Originally posted by Lichdom:

Personally I think the elf is the best they get the +1 ap ability. Seems the most useful.
I picked an undead elf..... wish I got the regular elf ability :(

Elves are good. Really damn good. But they have one sneaky penalty.

They are really terrible at holding shields.

[^DreeMax^]

Originally posted by Iry:

Originally posted by Lichdom:

Personally I think the elf is the best they get the +1 ap ability. Seems the most useful.
I picked an undead elf..... wish I got the regular elf ability :(

Elves are good. Really damn good. But they have one sneaky penalty.

They are really terrible at holding shields.

Oh thats totally change everything! Now elfs at least not at first place as warriors :D

[Say]

Is nobody going to mention that Female Lizards are just broken?

Some abilities/spells just straight up don't work. Onslaught and Daggers drawn only hit one time but with Male Lizards it hits the advertised 5 times. Don't believe me? Try it for yourself.

I am also convinced that there is a bug where the game somehow registers my Female Lizard as a male. People constantly call me "sir" or "lad". I get options of dialogue like "One day my wife and children will....blah blah blah"

Female lizards have consistently buggy animations. The ability "Backlash" on male lizards has them stab forward and instantly teleport to their target but for the females, for some reason they jump up into the air, get stuck for 3 seconds then land with an extremely delayed sound effect.

"All In" doesn't even make a sound for female lizards. The sound file is straight up missing. It's like this for several of their abilities.

[Ace!]

Persuasion is a pretty good bonus, this game has a lot of speech checks so it comes in handy. 10% fire resist is ok, game has a ton of fire and necrofire. Fire breath is probably one of the best pyro spells in the game, it scales with your pyro skill and it's 1 AP, and does almost as much damage as the 3 AP fire spells. Even without pyro, it has uses, setting fire to stuff in the enviroment or getting extra magic damage in.

[jdash417]

Originally posted by Lady Winter:

Is nobody going to mention that Female Lizards are just broken?

Some abilities/spells just straight up don't work. Onslaught and Daggers drawn only hit one time but with Male Lizards it hits the advertised 5 times. Don't believe me? Try it for yourself.

I am also convinced that there is a bug where the game somehow registers my Female Lizard as a male. People constantly call me "sir" or "lad". I get options of dialogue like "One day my wife and children will....blah blah blah"

Female lizards have consistently buggy animations. The ability "Backlash" on male lizards has them stab forward and instantly teleport to their target but for the females, for some reason they jump up into the air, get stuck for 3 seconds then land with an extremely delayed sound effect.

"All In" doesn't even make a sound for female lizards. The sound file is straight up missing. It's like this for several of their abilities.

Even in a video game women get a raw deal, can you say 77 cents on the dollar

[Balkoth]

+1 persuasion makes lizards ideal for party leader early game.

[Nodork]

and they are the best lovers in the world of divinity2.

[Hobocop]

Yeah, Female Lizards are bugged with Onslaught/Daggers Drawn. Annoying, but they're not particularly good skills for their cost as is. All In has worked consistently for me, and I have both a spear user and 2h strength user in my current singleplayer game.

I've yet to notice any other buggy animations that also doesn't effect their male counterparts, like how their tails don't animate and get stuck in T-Pose during certain interaction scenes.

Worth dealing with when you get armor that looks this good, along with the rest of their animations.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1174350868

[Kroma]

I would say lizard are the best for a warrior or tank class.
While elf are really the best for ranged dps classes.
And undead are just something else entirely, probably the best masochist race in the game.

The warrior lizard combo with 1 pts in pyro to enchant your weapon with fire, use your racial fire breath and then whirlwind ( 4 AP total cost for this combo ) deals more magic damage than physicial damage in AoE. So really good combo when playing with a mage or just to use medusa head next turn to petrify all the mobs.
Lizard are perfect for full physical dmg character which can deal a decent amount of AoE magical dommage without loosing any physical dmg potential.

I only play lizard when i play a warrior now if my party got a mage, it helps them a lot.

Humans bonus are pretty great too, encourage scale with level and can give a decent bonus stats to str / int / dex ( who cares about con ), but only 1 human in your group is needed, or if you want it all time 2 humans are necessary. Still fire breath give way more damage than encourage only it is magic damage.
5% crit / 2 init, is decent but 5% crit without points in scoundrel is equivalent to a 2.5% damage boost and is random.
The initiative bonus is ok for a rogue character.
I really prefer to have more resistance for a warrior than to have 2.5% dmg boost and 2 initiative.

Persuasion is mandatory on one character to get all the extra bonus experience you can have.

So when you first play the game lizard seems bad, i actually though that too, but when you found out that there are spells than can do magic dmg without scaling on int, making full physical character doing decent amount of magic dmg. Lizard becomes really good for that. But mainly work for rogue or warrior since the breath got a small range.

If you play a full physical dmg setup, i would say human is better for warrior otherwise i would go for a lizard all the time.

[Eternal President Uncle Slam]

I some what agree that the devs don't care as much about lizards. Its not so much about the bad racials though as it is about the customization options for me. Lizard males have hair options that clip through their own heads and a hair option that is actually floating inches away from your head.......... It looks like ♥♥♥♥ and astonishes me that they failed to notice when making them. ON top of them being the only race without facial features to choose from it is pretty annoying customizing a lizard character.

[Skatters]

Which you're right about... I always play Dwarf Rogues, because who needs Flesh Sacrafice when you can have a beard as cool as this? It still works extremely effectively, because the racial bonus isnt a deal-breaker at all comapred to well-developed characters or builds. Speaking as someone who DOES like to fuss over their builds/points, I wouldn't even bat an eyelid at the racial skills. Not if it means playing a smelly elf. ;-)

[IlluminaZero]

Well if it's any comfort the elf racial actually gets increasing CON penalties as you raise in level. While I love elves as Rogues (right from beginning flesh sacrifice -> backlash -> adrenaline -> attack x 3) I would rather a human for archer and two-hander.

For shields warriors and mages I would rather a lizard.

[Ashera]

Con is a rather useless stat anyway, so dwarfs passive is meh. Dodging only applies to physical damage / staff of magus / wands. Dwarves have the short straw.

Elves have, by far the best racial traits. Custom elves are even better because dome>sebilles lame thing... Sacrifice flesh is OP to give to 1 race. Should be a necro skill IMO. Eating limbs for free skills/xp/quest objectives is also far OP.

Undead, are just neat. I like what they've done there.

Humans are decent supports. Increased initiative = you get to buff you team earlier.

Lizards are awesome too. They are designed for pyro. Demon talent + base 10% fire resist = easy to get above 100% fire resist = fire heals, with how much necro fire you encounter it is nice to heal from it.
Also, the breath is really really good damage for 1ap, pair it with explosive trap (combine pyro/huntsman skills) for really good damage for 2ap.
(if my fireball is hitting 150, my breath/trap are both doing 80-100 for 1ap each... do the math)

[Dimquinox]

lol, with the shapeshifter mask, you can use elf's ability of eating body parts....
10% of fire and poised is super good when you're aiming to get 100% resistance for fire, and necro fire is very common... also, that breath of fire is pretty good IF you know how to use it, (1AP for a fire skill ? that's good, you can combine it with haste and get extra AP for attack next turn). for me, racial bonus are not really affecting my game, i prefer to roleplay as said character. an evil lustful red prince is good for humor