Summoning with Melee class

[Duc]

Summoning is amazingly versatile as it doesnt depend on any stat.


I plan to combine Summoning with close combat Gameplay, done by my main character (summoning+warfare+poly ). Is this playable? Did somebody combine something like this successfully? Or is it much better to combine summoning with ranged casting like pyro/geo?

[Jack Kane]

try it out respecing is easy in this game once you get your own boat.

[Grey Lavi]

Why not? You have only one skill on Summoning that scales with Int. Just try it. Maybe you need one round (4 points) to summon and buff the pet, second round you can slash what you want

[Vicious]

imo, it'd be better for melee to get a Widow instead of Incarnate. They're already likely taking points in Necro anyway, and Widow doesn't require as much AP used to buff it as the Incarnate does.

[Snippy The Rat]

Originally posted by Vicious:

imo, it'd be better for melee to get a Widow instead of Incarnate. They're already likely taking points in Necro anyway, and Widow doesn't require as much AP used to buff it as the Incarnate does.

Also Incarnate can't really compare to Bone Widow unless you get 10 Summoning for the big one. My summoner uses Incarnate as a primary summon, Bone Widow as a backup, and Bloated Corpse + Supercharge to open fights. Despite hearing that Necro and Summoning is garbage, its working pretty well for me.

[Iry]

Totems eat your AP since they only least 3 rounds, but you could focus primarily on having an Incarnate and buffing it before combat. That would certainly work. Your biggest complication is just having to split your points.

For example, a summoner really wants 10 Summoning, and a melee really wants 10 Warfare. You're going to have to give up on one of those goals until later in the game when you have enough points to do both. So either either a little bit of Warfare and a lot of Summoning, or a lot of Warfare and a little bit of Summoning.

If you go with the latter, there is nothing wrong with a baby Incarnate. They can toss out helpful fireballs, add another heal to your group, and even CC with Power Infusion.

If you just want a cool pet, go Warfare/Necro. It gives you the awesome Bone Widow (which will probably be nerfed soon), and Necro has great synergy with Warfare.

[Sephiroth]

totems suck they should just remove them and allow you to summon another unit.
or make increase in summon levels increase your summon limit. Like level 1 summon is limited to 1 summon but when you get to 5 you get to use 2 and when you get to 10 you can use 3.
Or just make a summon limit of 5 for the entire party so if you are soloing you can still summon 5 things

[Vicious]

Totems don't "suck". You jsut suck at using them.

[Jackal]

Bone widow ftw

[Yaldabaoth]

Summoning seems ok until you try a proper melee/ranged setup. Then you realize it's a waste of points. When a lone wolf character does 10000+ damage per turn, your bone widow just can't compare even with 20 summoning.

[Ghost]

I'm currently running a party of 6 with the extended party mod with 1 pure summoner, 1 summoner / melee hybrid, and 1 summoner / rogue

such overpower, much domination

[Grumpy Old Guy]

Don't try to hybrid melee with anything else that takes dedication. A melee character can do vast amounts of damage but they HAVE to focus all their stats on doing their damage or there isn't a point to them. Summoners HAVE to focus on summoning or the summons start to get weaker as the game goes on. If you want to hybrid melee with something use necro or poly. They are just better options.

[Ghost]

you can also use melee mostly for CC (knockdown, ram) and ranged for armor breaking and raw damage, so all melees are hybrids

2 warfare, 2 necro, 2 summoner is not terrible