Best to worst Larian/Divinity games

[iemander]

I'm starting:

1. DOS 2
2. Dragon Commander
3. DOS 1
4. Divinity 1
5. Beyond Divinity
6. Divinity 2

I totally loved dragon commander. Incredibly addicting game.

Hated Divinity 2, such bad combat. Bad performance on the engine, always stutter. Very boring he next to that.

[shanel.24]

1.Divinity 2
2.Dragon commander
3. DOS 1
4.Divine Divinity
5.Beyond Divinity
6. DOS 2

[BenTenpenny]

Originally posted by MindlessAutomata:

If Oblivion can get good reviews, then I don't want to hear anyone bash Divinity 2. I know the games aren't completely analogous, but Divinity 2 is a waaaaay better game.

Eeeeeeh ... as much as I like Divinity 2 I have to disagree on this one.

Oblivion pushed the boundaries of third person open world rpgs. A vast wonderful world to discover and lots of interesting quests to experience. Back when Oblivion launched it was mind-blowing.

Divinity 2, by the way, was based on Bethesda's Gamebryo engine.

[Ferengi Family Values]

Originally posted by BenTenpenny:

Originally posted by MindlessAutomata:

If Oblivion can get good reviews, then I don't want to hear anyone bash Divinity 2. I know the games aren't completely analogous, but Divinity 2 is a waaaaay better game.

Eeeeeeh ... as much as I like Divinity 2 I have to disagree on this one.

Oblivion pushed the boundaries of third person open world rpgs. A vast wonderful world to discover and lots of interesting quests to experience. Back when Oblivion launched it was mind-blowing.

Divinity 2, by the way, was based on Bethesda's Gamebryo engine.

I know.

And I disagree. Oblivion was extremely boring, and I find simply no charm in the world. Maybe the game would be better after modding, but the base game vs. Dragon Knight Saga, I'm firmly in the DKS camp. Oblivion didn't push the boundaries; it was a step back from Morrowind, for the most part.

And honestly, I just can't get into the Elder Scrolls world. It just completely lacks charm. The fantasy in Divinity is honestly pretty generic too, but it's saved by the charm and humor that the games are filled with.

I know that Div 2 was based on Gamebryo, it's part of why I draw the comparison.

I'd say that Oblivion was the worst of the elder scrolls games, at least the "modern" ones (Morrowind on up).

[Division by Zero]

All of the elder scrolls games suffer from the same flaw, their combat is not fun or entertaining in the slightest. The only thing even mildly amusing in Skyrim was knocking people off mountains and watching them ragdoll.

[wds_ncs]

Originally posted by BenTenpenny:

Oblivion pushed the boundaries of third person open world rpgs. A vast wonderful world to discover and lots of interesting quests to experience. Back when Oblivion launched it was mind-blowing.

I don't think Oblivion is even a high point of that particular series up until that point. Daggerfall was bigger and had already nailed effectively infinite procedurally generated quests, Morrowind had a lot more care put into unique locations and quests. It was only really mindblowing to people who hadn't played any games like it before.

[Iry]

Originally posted by Division by Zero:

All of the elder scrolls games suffer from the same flaw, their combat is not fun or entertaining in the slightest. The only thing even mildly amusing in Skyrim was knocking people off mountains and watching them ragdoll.

30 million copies sold means that you are in the extreme minority there. But that's pretty common. What critics love, common people tend to hate. What the common people love, critics tend to hate. It happens constantly, with high brow and complex games doing somewhat poorly compared to simple and straightforward games.

[Neks]

Originally posted by Iry:

Originally posted by Division by Zero:

All of the elder scrolls games suffer from the same flaw, their combat is not fun or entertaining in the slightest. The only thing even mildly amusing in Skyrim was knocking people off mountains and watching them ragdoll.

30 million copies sold means that you are in the extreme minority there. But that's pretty common. What critics love, common people tend to hate. What the common people love, critics tend to hate. It happens constantly, with high brow and complex games doing somewhat poorly compared to simple and straightforward games.

It is nothing about critics/common, just people's individuality and their tastes.

[Iry]

Originally posted by Neks:

It is nothing about critics/common, just people's individuality and their tastes.

No. It happens so frequently that there's even a TV Tropes page about it. Less often for video games, of course, but otherwise common.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CriticalDissonance

[Neks]

Originally posted by Iry:

Originally posted by Neks:

It is nothing about critics/common, just people's individuality and their tastes.

No. It happens so frequently that there's even a TV Tropes page about it. Less often for video games, of course, but otherwise common.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CriticalDissonance

Critics loves gta, common people loves it but many people, as like me, hate it. There is alwais some people who likes or dislikes something regardles of popularity/criticism. You cant just make a such simple system from that.

[Iry]

Originally posted by Neks:

You cant just make a such simple system from that.

People are paid large sums of money to do exactly that. The data has trends, and even places as simple as Facebook and Twitter track those treads on a large scale. You can even take entire classes on social statistics, and get your degree in the subject.

https://stat.cornell.edu/academics/bachelor-arts-statistical-science

[Neks]

Originally posted by Iry:

Originally posted by Neks:

You cant just make a such simple system from that.

People are paid large sums of money to do exactly that. The data has trends, and even places as simple as Facebook and Twitter track those treads on a large scale. You can even take entire classes on social statistics, and get your degree in the subject.

https://stat.cornell.edu/academics/bachelor-arts-statistical-science

Meh. Think what you want.

[Iry]

Originally posted by Neks:

Meh. Think what you want.

Absolutely! If I wasn't thinking what I wanted, then I'd be under some kind of mind control. Hahaha.

[Nomad]

Originally posted by MindlessAutomata:

If Oblivion can get good reviews, then I don't want to hear anyone bash Divinity 2. I know the games aren't completely analogous, but Divinity 2 is a waaaaay better game.

Controversial opinion: Divine Divinity is better than Diablo. It's simply a better game.

Dragon Commander was great fun, as long as you don't take the RTS portion seriously. It was a great idea that obviously needed to bake in the oven longer but didn't have enough time to let it. Still a game everyone is worth playing. I disagree with some of the politics in the game though, as an American I can spot certain things in there that are stand-ins for other things (e.g., Undead owning dangerous beast legality obviously commentating on gun ownership) that I disagree with completely. Won't stop my enjoyment of the game, though. Very different take on the political simulator. Dragon Commander is a very, very unique game. I don't really like RTS games anyway, so the RTS lacking didn't bother me (flying around as a dragon is a lot of fun)

DO NOT talk about polotics here. Dont even mention them.

[iemander]

Oblivion is a great game. You're free to disagree but understand that you're a minority when you think so.

Also, Oblivion didn't dumb down nearly as much as Morrowind did coming from Daggerfall. Same goes for Skyrim.

[wendigo211]

I dunno, most people I've talked to are of the opinion that Oblivion is crap without mods to fix basically everything. I haven't met too many fans of the vanilla game.