Duke Nukem 1 + 2 Remastered

[Convenient Spider]

So these games get a rerelease on some console (along with some PS1 spinoffs), but not on Steam.

[ScootaKuH]

Originally posted by Convenient Spider:

So these games get a rerelease on some console (along with some PS1 spinoffs), but not on Steam.

Evercade

[haha nerds...]

I wonder how they'll go about remastering 1+2 since the source codes were reportedly lost.

[Electric Cupcake]

Originally posted by haha nerds...:

I wonder how they'll go about remastering 1+2 since the source codes were reportedly lost.

And 2 is perfect as it is. 1 could stand to be remade in the 2 engine.

[haha nerds...]

Originally posted by Electric Cupcake:

And 2 is perfect as it is. 1 could stand to be remade in the 2 engine.

IMO 1 plays better than 2. The tile-based movement feels worse with the larger characters, I think.
The engine seems to be largely similar in terms of base functionality to me though (or rather, Duke 2 seems to have been built on top of Duke 1). What do you think would be improved by upgrading it to the Duke 2 engine?

[Thermal Lance]

If you guys fancy more gameplay like DN1. Check out MURI. Fun game.

[haha nerds...]

Originally posted by Thermal Lance:

If you guys fancy more gameplay like DN1. Check out MURI. Fun game.

Seconded — MURI is top tier.

[Abdu]

I think they will be on PC, one day.

[mirddes]

absolutely tragic that this remaster hasn't been released on PC yet.

its very slick.

[maleko_splitter]

Zoom Platform games. You can get D1 D2 and D3d with all the original expansions.

[DescipleOfZen]

Originally posted by maleko_splitter:

Zoom Platform games. You can get D1 D2 and D3d with all the original expansions.

Yes, but it's really difficult to go back to the DOS version of 1+2 once you've played the remake, it's so damn good.

[lucyfurnice]

Originally posted by haha nerds...:

I wonder how they'll go about remastering 1+2 since the source codes were reportedly lost.

disassembly of 16 bit dos applications is going to be a lot easier to understand than the x86_64 instruction set, so it could be disassembled.

People do that for lots of games, Super mario 64 was decompiled and is on github in assembly, but i believe they are or have already made it c.

[MASTAN]

Both Duke 1 and 2 source codes are already reengineered long ago
https://k1n9duk3.shikadi.net/reduke.html
https://github.com/lethal-guitar/RigelEngine

[haha nerds...]

Originally posted by lucyfurnice:

disassembly of 16 bit dos applications is going to be a lot easier to understand than the x86_64 instruction set, so it could be disassembled.

People do that for lots of games, Super mario 64 was decompiled and is on github in assembly, but i believe they are or have already made it c.

Don't know about this one, but a lot of the time these kind of projects are just rebuilt by eye, possibly with some partial reverse-engineering, rather than disassembled.

[Marco]

I have read on an old thread, maybe from 2 years ago that Duke 1 and 2 are property of their original developers that decided to sell these games on Zoom. So neither Apogee/3D Realms and Gearbox can't do anything about it as they don't hold copyright. Who knows the story better, correct me if I'm wrong. But the individuals hold the rights for these games, not the companies. Hence why we get Crystal Caves HD but not Duke1 and 2 remasters.

[Yzal]

Originally posted by Marco - cav+xbows is METAH!!11!!:

I have read on an old thread, maybe from 2 years ago that Duke 1 and 2 are property of their original developers that decided to sell these games on Zoom. So neither Apogee/3D Realms and Gearbox can't do anything about it as they don't hold copyright. Who knows the story better, correct me if I'm wrong. But the individuals hold the rights for these games, not the companies. Hence why we get Crystal Caves HD but not Duke1 and 2 remasters.

No, Gearbox owns the entirety of the Duke Nukem IP.
Zoom was granted a perpetual license to sell those games before 3D Realms sold the rights, Gearbox has to respect it afaik. That's why they're on Zoom but not on Steam or Gog.