Mary boss fight is completely stupid if you do "no kill" playthrough

[Tamaster]

I did all quests i found, level 18, she is level 21.

When you get her about at 25% HP her attack pattern becomes completely insane and her entire swing animations are faster than my 2handed weapon parry animation, meaning i cannot even parry her attacks anymore to stun her.

Never mind trying to attack her, complete suicide, because her pattern change time from idle after attack to attacking again takes so little time that she just cancels my attack animation with thestagger of hers even before i finished a swing.

Also, permanent damage AoE and knockdown all the time thanks to those blood pods that spawn every 3 seconds.

Also, she becomes vulerable when stops and starts vomiting blood, okay, but you will not know if she does that OR instead the OP scream area attack that WILL likely insta-kill you since it does insane damage, it has the same animation as vomiting, so you can not even tell what she is going to do. Also she almost never does that in the < 25% phase.

I guess i will have to start sucking some people, because clearly this game has not been balanced properly if you want to do a "good guy" run. Or rather, it's easy until this boss, like from zero to completely insane change. Next time DONTNOD stick to your interactive movies.

[FluffyPotato]

Yea, I got to that when I was about 10 levels lower than her. It was pretty hard but I managed to do it with a lot of dodging and keeping my distance, only using ranged attacks and Coagulation to replenish my blood supply. Took a lot of time and healing but definitely doable with that strategy.

[DementedCargo]

i whould say the vulkan from ascalon is way harder than her

[Tamaster]

Originally posted by Speedwagon:

Yea, I got to that when I was about 10 levels lower than her. It was pretty hard but I managed to do it with a lot of dodging and keeping my distance, only using ranged attacks and Coagulation to replenish my blood supply. Took a lot of time and healing but definitely doable with that strategy.

So i basically need to cheese bosses now. Great.

[Tamaster]

Originally posted by Dementedcargo:

i whould say the vulkan from ascalon is way harder than her

The one in the sewers? Nah that was super easy man.

[FluffyPotato]

Originally posted by Tamaster:

Originally posted by Speedwagon:

Yea, I got to that when I was about 10 levels lower than her. It was pretty hard but I managed to do it with a lot of dodging and keeping my distance, only using ranged attacks and Coagulation to replenish my blood supply. Took a lot of time and healing but definitely doable with that strategy.

So i basically need to cheese bosses now. Great.

I guess you need to adapt if you are going with the no kill route since you will be weaker and can't take on a vampire that has killed tons of people head on.
I quite like it, you make the difficulty, just like with Witcher. You can run in and get killed or you can research, be prepared and use the enemies weakness against them.

[Tamaster]

Originally posted by Speedwagon:

Originally posted by Tamaster:

So i basically need to cheese bosses now. Great.

I guess you need to adapt if you are going with the no kill route since you will be weaker and can't take on a vampire that has killed tons of people head on.
I quite like it, you make the difficulty, just like with Witcher. You can run in and get killed or you can research, be prepared and use the enemies weakness against them.

No sir this ain't like witcher one bit. In witcher you actually had many ways to level up and get better skills stuff and everything, here you have three choices:

1. Do evil, loads of XP, game becomes probably too easy.

2. Do good, always be underpowered, bosses become kiting fests / cheese fests / 1-hit-kill fests, get to the final boss and be 15 levels underleveled and get rekt ( i read this info from someone that already arrived there with "good path")

3. Do the grinding way, AKA roam all streets for hours and hours to get 10 XP per enemy, sleep, do again until you rack up enough XP to counterbalance the XP you would have had if you did evil path.

Game design everyone.

[Leine]

The only fair fight is the fight won. Cheesing isn't the same in this game. You're not glitching or running away, you're using tactics. If you were in the position of Reid and your life was on the line would you want to run up to her after knowing your attacks are basically uneffective? No you would either run away or wear her down. The only difference is that we can see we're effecting her.

[Leine]

Originally posted by Tamaster:

Originally posted by Speedwagon:

I guess you need to adapt if you are going with the no kill route since you will be weaker and can't take on a vampire that has killed tons of people head on.
I quite like it, you make the difficulty, just like with Witcher. You can run in and get killed or you can research, be prepared and use the enemies weakness against them.

No sir this ain't like witcher one bit. In witcher you actually had many ways to level up and get better skills stuff and everything, here you have three choices:

1. Do evil, loads of XP, game becomes probably too easy.

2. Do good, always be underpowered, bosses become kiting fests / cheese fests / 1-hit-kill fests, get to the final boss and be 15 levels underleveled and get rekt ( i read this info from someone that already arrived there with "good path")

3. Do the grinding way, AKA roam all streets for hours and hours to get 10 XP per enemy, sleep, do again until you rack up enough XP to counterbalance the XP you would have had if you did evil path.

Game design everyone.

Doing "Evil" does not make the game easier, it makes it way harder once districts reach chaos state.

[Taffey]

Dodge/claws/stun/bite/ultimate is all I did and I managed to beat her on my second try. But yeh I agree she is insane. I only killed 3 citizens and I was lvl 21 tho. I'm not really ready to go through the pain of no killing.

[StarlightRac]

why use 2handed weapon against a opponent that is fast hitter? sure 2h is high damage but very slow rate of hit vs a mob that fast hits (probably hard hitting too) add all those fast hits vs 2h and fast will win hands down i would think. change your weapon choice.

[his1roguenation]

Originally posted by Leine:

Originally posted by Tamaster:

No sir this ain't like witcher one bit. In witcher you actually had many ways to level up and get better skills stuff and everything, here you have three choices:

1. Do evil, loads of XP, game becomes probably too easy.

2. Do good, always be underpowered, bosses become kiting fests / cheese fests / 1-hit-kill fests, get to the final boss and be 15 levels underleveled and get rekt ( i read this info from someone that already arrived there with "good path")

3. Do the grinding way, AKA roam all streets for hours and hours to get 10 XP per enemy, sleep, do again until you rack up enough XP to counterbalance the XP you would have had if you did evil path.

Game design everyone.

Doing "Evil" does not make the game easier, it makes it way harder once districts reach chaos state.

look, someone who also believes playing stealth is the hard way to play deus ex.

[Simple Kind of Man]

man so many of you need a big GULP of get gud

[King in Yellow]

Git gud.

[StarlightRac]

just question, what git gud mean?...i seen that here on some other posting for vampyr

[Eo]

Originally posted by StarlightRac:

just question, what git gud mean?...i seen that here on some other posting for vampyr

get good