Battle Cry of Freedom - Competition?

[Ninja Gaijin]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1358710/Battle_Cry_of_Freedom/

What do people think?

I hate M&B style ADS/first person view, and M&B and Holdfast pub gameplay.

But it visually looked decent, apart from character models which look derpy.

Hoping this game at least stokes the flames at Campfire to get some more big updates rolling through soon

[Knoxklay11]

doesnt look it to me, war of rights looks way more detailed and complex. this will be fun to play but its more arcady to me.. like verdun-ish kind of gameplay, which isnt a BAD thing, but its not comparable to WoR.

[Ninja Gaijin]

I just found out it is 3rd person only, so I won't even touch it, lol. I love FPS, hate 3rd person games.

[starwars7777]

Originally posted by Ninja Gaijin:

I just found out it is 3rd person only, so I won't even touch it, lol. I love FPS, hate 3rd person games.

It’s not 3rd person only

[Rawlins]

For games that have 3rd/1st person switchable, it's usually competitive to be in 3rd person due to the enhanced vision. I feel like most people tend to be more competitive and choose 3rd person in those situations. Not sure if it will be like pubg and have two different game modes for the players that prefer either one but don't want to feel outmatched

[5th Fla (H) Pvt. Proudfoot]

I watched some videos of it. Too video gamey for me. Not a fan of its playstyle or looks. That said, how bad is the trolling? Do they have a system for it?

[1Lt. Killroy [42ndPA]]

Agree about the video gamey nature, playstyle, or the looks. Some of the early test videos I saw online too made the in game battle chatter seem very annoying. Doesn't appeal to me at all.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

Greatly looking forward to it. War of Rights has been on the pot for too long and recent updates have messed things up (artillery) or added things no one really cares about. Yeah sure WoR is gritty and realistic, but so are my bowel movements. I'm glad Battle Cry of Freedom is here. It'll finally give War of Rights competition so they stop being so lax and resting on their laurels. I'll be playing both of course but BCOF has more of my attention than WoR does.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5YPwtlRsCg&feature=youtu.be

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516563580775301120/866401115117584385/BCOFNEW.PNG

[Jan z Starý-Sobor]

To be honest, the one thing wrong with the List you posted, Sir Seanicus. I wouldn't call the melee "Advanced". Nowhere closed to "Advanced" most games have the simple, stab, block, and slash. This goes for Holdfast and Battle cry of Freedom for what it looks like, I believe they said they'll improve melee in WoR (Hasn't been done, will it ever be?). Advanced I think would be a bit more than, Blocking, Slashing, and stabbing.

[DumbCatFace]

3rd person shooter, no thanks.

[Ninja Gaijin]

Originally posted by Modern Major-General:

To be honest, the one thing wrong with the List you posted, Sir Seanicus. I wouldn't call the melee "Advanced". Nowhere closed to "Advanced" most games have the simple, stab, block, and slash. This goes for Holdfast and Battle cry of Freedom for what it looks like, I believe they said they'll improve melee in WoR (Hasn't been done, will it ever be?). Advanced I think would be a bit more than, Blocking, Slashing, and stabbing.

M&B, Holdfast etc have directional strike and blocks, so you have to block in the right direction / guess what the attacker is doing, same as beyond the wire (but I think you can bayonet stab in that without being blocked, only countered

I wish they'd fix the melee in WoR. It needs it. It's been years they talked about it but nothing changed. The devs of Blackwake said the same thing while they still supported their game also.

That's nice to hear it has 1st person, but I expect it will be low quality like Prime & Load or Holdfast, with no real ADS/iron sights. Watched some more videos and now I see it's not competition against War of Rights - but, it might segregate the existing community to a small degree. I think most WoR heads would keep playing WoR, but if it's a civil war game with more players, maybe people would migrate.

[Sir Seanicus, Esq.]

BCOF has iron sights.

[[6thAL.I] Pfc Emperror steve]

in terms of possible community numbers competition possibly
as alot of players in holdfast do play a american civil war mod which is in terms of gameplay similar as its kind of like holdfast (which does have quite a big community believe me im very active in that community and there discord trying to change there ways ) aswell as the american civil war mod which is popular aswell as mount and blade

in terms of realism no of course

i believe it may cause problems for this game and community in the future

[Ghoste]

War of rights players are built different. They won’t like this arcade game, they are too civilized for it.

[gideon09876]

Originally posted by Ghoste:

War of rights players are built different. They won’t like this arcade game, they are too civilized for it.

Lmao, "they are too civilized for it" I seen regiments on WOR tk pub officers (because they wanted a officer spot to recuit), 10 years yelling recuitment messages all over the place. Wor is more realistic for sure but would't call the community "civilized" whens its just as toxic as other gaming communities.

[gideon09876]

Originally posted by Modern Major-General:

To be honest, the one thing wrong with the List you posted, Sir Seanicus. I wouldn't call the melee "Advanced". Nowhere closed to "Advanced" most games have the simple, stab, block, and slash. This goes for Holdfast and Battle cry of Freedom for what it looks like, I believe they said they'll improve melee in WoR (Hasn't been done, will it ever be?). Advanced I think would be a bit more than, Blocking, Slashing, and stabbing.

Battle Cry of Freedom, has chambering from NW (if you don't know what chambering is you have never played a advance melee game) (mordhau and warband,bannerlord have it) and kicking/pushing. You can obviously also drag your attacks and hold like in other games. It also doesn't have a spin to win like other games have aka Holdfast