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[Pepe]

Do we want tanks in our game? *Laughs in Red Orchestra*

[myxa]

Originally posted by Pepe:

Do we want tanks in our game? *Laughs in Red Orchestra*

Wrong forum buddy. lol
But in all seriousness do tanks really bring much value? Even helis are sus when in RS2 you get expert cobra pilot it's game over. Many servers had "no helis" back in the day. I feel like they better spend their effort elsewhere.

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by myxa:

Originally posted by Pepe:

Do we want tanks in our game? *Laughs in Red Orchestra*

Wrong forum buddy. lol

Originally posted by myxa:

Do we really want tanks in our games?

Probably referencing you.

Originally posted by myxa:

But in all seriousness do tanks really bring much value? Even helis are sus when in RS2 you get expert cobra pilot it's game over. Many servers had "no helis" back in the day. I feel like they better spend their effort elsewhere.

Yes, I believe they do. If this is a 1980s game, as long as they have
1. sufficient AT (AT weapons, explosives, ATGMs, other tanks since this isn’t as asymmetrical)
2. realistic limitations (easy to use 3rd person cameras with max visibility and stuff, realistic mobility {though that was better than WW2 tbf}, etc.).
I think they can totally work and be fun to play as, as well as hunt. They probably can be game changing weapons, but only if the team using them uses teamwork (protect the tanks), or the team fighting them uses teamwork. And since both T-series and M60-series tanks were shown in the trailer, both sides presumably get them.


Edit: additionally, as you said yourself about the helicopters, they’ll probably allow tankless servers too. So if you don’t like them, just don’t play with them.

[Geronimo426]

I cannot wait for this game. Antimatter's formula for multiplayer fps is PERFECT in my opinion. Everytime i go back to RS2 Nam i think... "why did i stop frequently playing this game". Plus all the BF/COD kids hate it.
83 needs early access launch tomorrow!!!!!!

[kamikazi21358]

Originally posted by Geronimo426:

I cannot wait for this game. Antimatter's formula for multiplayer fps is PERFECT in my opinion. Everytime i go back to RS2 Nam i think... "why did i stop frequently playing this game". Plus all the BF/COD kids hate it.
83 needs early access launch tomorrow!!!!!!

They’re probably modeling new weapons, they have to model new tanks (especially if they’re making full interiors for them like Red Orchestra, but with updated graphics), have new gameplay challenges to go with them (‘70s-‘80s tanks are so much different to ‘40s tanks; different weapons to RS2:V may be minor but still there), plus having to make large quality maps can’t be easy especially with updated graphics, etc., etc. Plus I don’t even know what engine it is in, if that complicates the process if it’s in a different one, then of course there are bugs everywhere in a new game…
As much as I want it now, I say give them time, let them release it right.

Additionally, while some gamers are responsible, many gamers are fairly irresponsible, impatient, unfair people and will dunk on a game that is early access just as hard as a $70+ AAA “finished” game. Sometimes the way people treat early access games, or will demand games get released sooner because they can’t wait then dunk on them when they are unfinished buggy messes, then review bomb them for releasing the game too early.
I am not saying necessarily anyone here is or is not that way, I don’t know, but people like this are common and are the reason why we cannot have nice things.

[Misaki]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by myxa:

idk, looks more like re-mesh of vietnam. I hope they implement some new features like body armor or something. Even weapons are the same, m16/SVD... I've played these games before. I feel like they should have went further into future from vietnam war to make it distinct enough. Large scale is sus.. how large? larger than RS2? Do we really want tanks in our games?

I know everyone has different opinions, but,

yes, fine with me, too many modern games (more Cold War plz), hopefully, YES (plz add T-80).


In all seriousness, I wouldn’t mind a modern game with the RS2 formula, but I find the Cold War era and before much more interesting imo. I saw a video by them why they chose the 1980s, and I think some of the points summed it up quite nicely — more modern, but not modern enough to use holographic sights and stuff for everything.
Additional thoughts: great period for a WW3 game — Russia/Soviet Union actually may have been more competent than their modern equivalents, may have actually put up a fight against NATO with their much larger and more advanced (relative to year) military of the time.
Lack of drones and stuff, which either have to be unrealistic, or will have to be a frustrating part of the game I genuinely believe, (I am not a modern warfare expert, my knowledge of history on this stuff drops off more after the 1980s, but from my understanding — drone warfare sounds very unfair if it were to be implemented).
More options for scenarios, if not in the released game but for DLC? They talked about one of the settings being Cuba or an Invasion of Florida, which sounds super cool — which isn’t going to be in the released game because it would be too hard they decided for now, but, invading the US mainland and stuff like that is ‘more believable’ in Soviet era than modern era tbh. And since the Soviet Union is bigger, all sorts of areas are more believable to be in game imo.
Also while some of the weapons will be the same, I don’t think they’ll be the ‘exact same’. We’ll probably see a lot more updated weapons like AK-74s and such, ‘80s stuff the US would use instead of just ‘60s, stuff the Soviet Union would use and not just the hand-me-downs of Vietnam, and maybe even more factions later on — instead of just AVRN and Australia for RS2:V, we may see stuff from Britain, West Germany, France, Italy, Eastern Block, etc.


Sorry for wall of text, I understand modern games are popular so it isn’t a criticising of your opinion. I was just pointing out the positives of a cold war shooter, we don’t get enough of those — games default to modern times/Middle East war times, we don’t get many late Cold War stuff tbh. I am happy we are getting one, and in the realistic style of the RO/RS series.

look at how drones are in battlefield 4 hahaha. hated by everyone except those that use it

[Geronimo426]

Originally posted by kamikazi21358:

Originally posted by Geronimo426:

I cannot wait for this game. Antimatter's formula for multiplayer fps is PERFECT in my opinion. Everytime i go back to RS2 Nam i think... "why did i stop frequently playing this game". Plus all the BF/COD kids hate it.
83 needs early access launch tomorrow!!!!!!

They’re probably modeling new weapons, they have to model new tanks (especially if they’re making full interiors for them like Red Orchestra, but with updated graphics), have new gameplay challenges to go with them (‘70s-‘80s tanks are so much different to ‘40s tanks; different weapons to RS2:V may be minor but still there), plus having to make large quality maps can’t be easy especially with updated graphics, etc., etc. Plus I don’t even know what engine it is in, if that complicates the process if it’s in a different one, then of course there are bugs everywhere in a new game…
As much as I want it now, I say give them time, let them release it right.

Additionally, while some gamers are responsible, many gamers are fairly irresponsible, impatient, unfair people and will dunk on a game that is early access just as hard as a $70+ AAA “finished” game. Sometimes the way people treat early access games, or will demand games get released sooner because they can’t wait then dunk on them when they are unfinished buggy messes, then review bomb them for releasing the game too early.
I am not saying necessarily anyone here is or is not that way, I don’t know, but people like this are common and are the reason why we cannot have nice things.

Yep i agree. I assume the earliest it will drop is 4th quarter this year at best. But, i know Antimatter will come through as all their titles are solid tactical shooters.
And yeah, i agree about these clowns that dunk on games in EA. Most of those people are BF/COD kids that repeatedly buy garbage AAA releases and just have some odd vendetta against ANY shooter thats not BF or COD. They are all brainwashed.
Man i cant wait for 83, ahahhahaha

[myxa]

Originally posted by Geronimo426:

And yeah, i agree about these clowns that dunk on games in EA. Most of those people are BF/COD kids that repeatedly buy garbage AAA releases and just have some odd vendetta against ANY shooter thats not BF or COD. They are all brainwashed.

Where do you think people came from originally to RO2/RS2? Counter-strike? ARMA?

[Aqueox]

Originally posted by myxa:

Originally posted by Pepe:

Do we want tanks in our game? *Laughs in Red Orchestra*

Wrong forum buddy. lol
But in all seriousness do tanks really bring much value? Even helis are sus when in RS2 you get expert cobra pilot it's game over. Many servers had "no helis" back in the day. I feel like they better spend their effort elsewhere.

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ just go play that skin shooter "Call of Duty" or whatever the ♥♥♥♥ they try to pass it off as. No tanks there, and all the infantry combat you can get.

Or maybe CS2 is more your speed.

[Franss the Coffee Addict]

Originally posted by myxa:

Originally posted by Geronimo426:

And yeah, i agree about these clowns that dunk on games in EA. Most of those people are BF/COD kids that repeatedly buy garbage AAA releases and just have some odd vendetta against ANY shooter thats not BF or COD. They are all brainwashed.

Where do you think people came from originally to RO2/RS2? Counter-strike? ARMA?

unfortunately i came from the era when you could still talk ♥♥♥♥ in lobbies (MW2, Bf3, halo2), and after looking at the sequels of these games back then (except halo 3, wanted it but wouldnt ass myself to buy a 360 just for that)

[†Karlito Loko†]

Originally posted by DarthBong420:

What I really want is rs2 remake in unreal 5 with more destruction and longer draw distance. Optimisation and finish what was planned for it.

same

[Dead LungS]

im not stoked for this game... i want a new ww2 tripwire game called red O 3 nothing else will suffice

[Eon]

Originally posted by Dead LungS:

im not stoked for this game... i want a new ww2 tripwire game called red O 3 nothing else will suffice

Sucks to suck