shotguns, best weapons in the game?

[JolyJew СлаваУкраине]

i have no idea why buy shotguns are godlike weapons in this game, i can consistantly get 1-hit kills from over 80 meters away.
what's even better - i dont need to be perfectly precise with my aim, i can still get that kill even when my sights weren't completely alligned to the target.

so how come they are so damn rare?

[Lain]

The shotguns never clicked with me honestly. The NLF/PAVN ones only have 2 shots before reloading, and the US ones feel ineffective past "whites of their eyes" distance.

[Beans]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

i have no idea why buy shotguns are godlike weapons in this game, i can consistantly get 1-hit kills from over 80 meters away.
what's even better - i dont need to be perfectly precise with my aim, i can still get that kill even when my sights weren't completely alligned to the target.

so how come they are so damn rare?

80 meters? Those are rookie numbers. I've gotten a 180 meter kill with the hunting shotgun.

[Kets]

Imo it's because most classes that can equip the US shotguns can also get the grease gun, wich is superior in every way.
I see double barrel all the time, that thing is a beast.

[static]

Shotguns are plenty effective if they're used with appropriate tactics (and in ideal surroundings), but the low rate of fire and inability to deliver sustained suppressing fire limits them to niche roles. 00 Buckshot can kill out to 80-100 yards, pretty much the same as in reality. #4 buck is better at closer ranges, and the deer slug is great at any range if you can hit. Their achilles heel is sustained rate of fire, especially at medium-long ranges.

Maintaining a team-level base of fire with rifles and machine guns firing towards/into known & suspected enemy positions is the bread and butter of combat in RS2. Shotguns are basically unable to contribute to that in a meaningful way. They're very powerful weapons but they lack the sustained rate of fire that would elevate them into more useful tools on a team level.

[Gearness]

The duck-bill version of the Ithaca 37 is seriously underrated for close quarters. Due to it's horizontal spray pattern and smaller buck, you barely have to aim at someone in order to hit them at close range. Very quick and lethal that way, but incredibly useless beyond 10m.

Shotguns are very powerful in the right situations, but they're a lot harder to use effectively than rifles and SMGs.

[FourGreenFields]

Originally posted by Gear:

The duck-bill version of the Ithaca 37 is seriously underrated for close quarters. Due to it's horizontal spray pattern and smaller buck, you barely have to aim at someone in order to hit them at close range. Very quick and lethal that way, but incredibly useless beyond 10m.

Quite sure you can reliably get one-hit-kills out to about 20m. Several shots at up to about 30m range, and only then is it actually useless (allthough at 30m you'll still want other weapons).

[sonoob]

Can I use this opportunity to ask for Aussie pointmans to have shotguns?

[Trevor Reznik]

Great power that comes at a cost:

Having to pump after each round or holding very few rounds.

I'd say they are properly balanced.

[Martello Mastroianni]

My main weapon is long double barrel VC shotgun

[Astralflame]

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

i have no idea why buy shotguns are godlike weapons in this game, i can consistantly get 1-hit kills from over 80 meters away.
what's even better - i dont need to be perfectly precise with my aim, i can still get that kill even when my sights weren't completely alligned to the target.

so how come they are so damn rare?

M1 garand is best weapon in game, hardly any recoil, high powered, and superb accuracy, good reload time (at least it feels like it). M1 Garand is like making every riflemen a marksman, only drawback is 8 bullets but that's an extremely small handicap.

[BoredOperator]

Go into your settings and turn on manual pumping. It'll increase your shotgun fire-rate quite a bit.

[panzertek CS-BL.com]

Originally posted by Lefunk:

Originally posted by Jolly Jew:

i have no idea why buy shotguns are godlike weapons in this game, i can consistantly get 1-hit kills from over 80 meters away.
what's even better - i dont need to be perfectly precise with my aim, i can still get that kill even when my sights weren't completely alligned to the target.

so how come they are so damn rare?

M1 garand is best weapon in game, hardly any recoil, high powered, and superb accuracy, good reload time (at least it feels like it). M1 Garand is like making every riflemen a marksman, only drawback is 8 bullets but that's an extremely small handicap.

It bothers me that it controls far better than the m14

[FlashBurn]

Originally posted by panzertek CS-BL.com:

Originally posted by Lefunk:

M1 garand is best weapon in game, hardly any recoil, high powered, and superb accuracy, good reload time (at least it feels like it). M1 Garand is like making every riflemen a marksman, only drawback is 8 bullets but that's an extremely small handicap.

It bothers me that it controls far better than the m14

Me too. Its way better than BETTER rifles like the M14 or L1a1. The garand was a Great rifle when compared to any semi auto battle rifle pre-1950. After.... totally obsolete. Game does nto show that at all. Would take this games M1 over the M14 or L1a1. That is wacko.

[static]

Originally posted by Sonoob:

Can I use this opportunity to ask for Aussie pointmans to have shotguns?

They didn’t use them.

[panzertek CS-BL.com]

Originally posted by FlashBurn:

Originally posted by panzertek CS-BL.com:

It bothers me that it controls far better than the m14

Me too. Its way better than BETTER rifles like the M14 or L1a1. The garand was a Great rifle when compared to any semi auto battle rifle pre-1950. After.... totally obsolete. Game does nto show that at all. Would take this games M1 over the M14 or L1a1. That is wacko.

Could be because te M1 was used in RS1 and like the other weapons from the others games they somehow feel not only more fluid but more precise and powerful compared to the new ones, IMHO