Which do you prefer M16 or M14 and why?

[Ciaran Zagami]

title says it all
I personally like the M16 more because I find myself making frequent use of the full auto to compensate for my some times lackluster aim

[Thor]

M16. It has much lower recoil, equally decent aim, less obstructive sight, much higher projectile velocity (less bullet drop and less need to aim ahead of moving targets) and theoretically has better penetration.

The only pro I can see the M14 having is that it has higher damage per bullet.
The other argument is that it's more "fun" to use. But if it's just for novelty then the Mosin Nagant takes the cake on that one.

In the real army, people booed when they had to switch to the M14 from the M1.
They again booed, even more, when they switched to the AR-15 and many refused to let go of their previous equipment.
But then came the M16, a fully fleshed fully functional assault rifle.
And again five years later, the M16A1 (and XM16E1), which was an almost perfected assault rifle that almost everyone in the army loved using and would take any day over an M1 or M14.
And it's got to be good if it lasted all the way to the present day.

[Bluecher Forward]

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kamikazi21358 の投稿を引用：

M14, because it is the less-worse of the two.

I hate the American style sights, in my opinion, they are very obstructive with line of sight, as the large round sights can cover what you’re attempting to aim at. I don’t know if people judge by this like I do, but I consider the sights the most important part of any game — the gun is useless if you can’t hit your opponent with it.

The M16 only has 18 rounds I believe, and I find myself blowing though the magizine like nothing. The recoil is excellent and so is the trajectory, I think those are the 2 best things of it, but I frankly would rather have the semi-auto mode to make sure you have the required ammo. And the M14 is better at that, because it fires 7.62mms I believe. Plus it has a 20 round magizine, more than the M16’s underloaded 18 round one.

If I have to play American Infantry, I’ll just take the M14 and pick up the first Russian weapon I find. That, or I’ll take pointman or something and take out a stakeout shotgun instead. I like the M1 garand way better for some reason.

Pretty sure the m16 has a 20 round magazine dude...the only guns with 18 round magazines are usually pistols....18 is just the wrong number for rifle magazine capacity...

You are wrong my friend. In Vietnam the 20 round magazine was always loaded with only 18 rounds because of issues with the spring in the magazines - leading to feeding problems when loaded with 20 rounds. Count them sometime.

[kamikazi21358]

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Insanity の投稿を引用：

Pretty sure the m16 has a 20 round magazine dude...the only guns with 18 round magazines are usually pistols....18 is just the wrong number for rifle magazine capacity...

You are wrong my friend. In Vietnam the 20 round magazine was always loaded with only 18 rounds because of issues with the spring in the magazines - leading to feeding problems when loaded with 20 rounds. Count them sometime.

The M16A1 solved this problem, but they still underloaded them to 18 rounds. It is 18 rounds in game.

Although even if it was 20 rounds, I’d still pick up the first AK-47 I find lying on the ground. Even if they gave the late War ones the 30 round magazine, I still probably would like any of the Russian or Chinese weapons better, I may be in the minority, but I am not a fan of the M16, I just don’t like it.

[Thor]

He is correct. The M16A1 in the game only has a 18 round magazine whilst the M14 has 20.
In the Vietnam war soldiers were instructed to only load 18 rounds in their 20 round magazines in order to prevent their rifles from failing to feed due to magazine spring potentially being worn out.

[Thor]

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Bluecher Forward の投稿を引用：

You are wrong my friend. In Vietnam the 20 round magazine was always loaded with only 18 rounds because of issues with the spring in the magazines - leading to feeding problems when loaded with 20 rounds. Count them sometime.

The M16A1 solved this problem, but they still underloaded them to 18 rounds. It is 18 rounds in game.

In Rising Storm 2 we have the M16A1. It replaced the M16 in 1969.

[Maki Nishikino]

M14, I love all battle rifles for some reason.

[culiao que no sabe jugar]

the m16 because has less recoil, semi(and/or) automatic mode(s)

[Lexx_Goffman]

M14 - almost always OHK, great accuracy, 20 rounds and perfect sights

[Thor]

Lexx_Goffman の投稿を引用：

M14 great accuracy

M16 has the same accuracy, with more bullet velocity.
So you can hit distant targets better with the M16.

Lexx_Goffman の投稿を引用：

20 rounds

It's only a two bullet difference. The M16 has 18.

Lexx_Goffman の投稿を引用：

and perfect sights

The rear sights are too shallow to compensate for the hard jerky recoil and in turning movement tilts both sights to either side a lot (ie. if you turn left, rear sights move right and front sights move left).
And the sights look almost identical to the M16 anyways. But the M16 has almost no recoil in comparison to the M14 and the sights are more stable and doesn't wobble.

[kamikazi21358]

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Lexx_Goffman の投稿を引用：

20 rounds

It's only a two bullet difference. The M16 has 18.

Which doesn’t matter since it lasts you just over a second.

[Thor]

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Raizo の投稿を引用：

It's only a two bullet difference. The M16 has 18.

Which doesn’t matter since it lasts you just over a second.

Yes that's my point. No one goes "well my minigun has 6 bullets extra than your 1000 bullet belt! so minigun is clearly superior!"
It's just negligible.

[Lexx_Goffman]

It's nice to see how you just don't include OHK i mentioned in your critique. 7.62 rifle killin on first shot on any distance meanwhile with such a great accuracy, nice sights and extra 2 rounds.
While M16 basically: well he was 100 meteres away and i shot him 4 times and he still survived because oh well it's 5.56.

It's all real simple:
You wanna kill a bunch of enemies for sure - you take M14 battle rifle made of wood and steel with full length 7.62 rifle rounds. 1 shot - 1 kill.

You want to wound em slightly, waste 2-4 toy-rounds on every enemy out of your 18 rounds? Or maybe you wanna uselessly waste full mag on 3 secs spray to kill enemy up to 25 meters far? Well then - plastic piece of junk called M16 is your choice!

[Raszak]

Lexx_Goffman の投稿を引用：

It's nice to see how you just don't include OHK i mentioned in your critique. 7.62 rifle killin on first shot on any distance meanwhile with such a great accuracy, nice sights and extra 2 rounds.
While M16 basically: well he was 100 meteres away and i shot him 4 times and he still survived because oh well it's 5.56.

It's all real simple:
You wanna kill a bunch of enemies for sure - you take M14 battle rifle made of wood and steel with full length 7.62 rifle rounds. 1 shot - 1 kill.

You want to wound em slightly, waste 2-4 toy-rounds on every enemy out of your 18 rounds? Or maybe you wanna uselessly waste full mag on 3 secs spray to kill enemy up to 25 meters far? Well then - plastic piece of junk called M16 is your choice!

The chad M14 vs the virgin M16

[Thor]

Lexx_Goffman の投稿を引用：

It's nice to see how you just don't include OHK i mentioned in your critique.

I did that in an earlier post. I did say that the only real pro the M14 had was its higher damage, referring to OHK on torso. But it's not a OHK anywhere else. Still, it doesn't make much of a differene considering how follow up shots are effortless with the M16. I've only ever survived a shot to the torso from a M16 once every week or so from regular gameplay. Again making it negligible.
But with your one-way logic of damage>everything else, then the Mosin is clearly superior to the M14, since you yourself forget the factor of the bullet velocity, meaning (and I repeat myself) the M16 is more accurate at long range than the M14, simply because the bullet travels faster. It hits its target almost immediately as you fire.

So I can equally ridicule your argument by saying "well then you can rapid click your M14 at an enemy 10 meters away, miss half of them because of recoil. And never hit zig-zagging enemies over 70 meters away because of low velocity underhand throw pebbles. So you can play with your wooden BB gun or pick the weapon of the present and future."
I just don't think that's a very productive way of having a conversation where facts matter.

Besides it doesn't help that the majority of players greatly prever the M1 Garand over the M14. And the M1 only has an 8 bullet capacity.

[Lexx_Goffman]

Raizo の投稿を引用：

But with your one-way logic of damage>everything else, then the Mosin is clearly superior to the M14

Wait wait wait, I forgot... Is Mosin automatic? Or maybe it has 20 rounds magazine?
Like i said twice before M14 has all those pros with sights, accuracy, extra 2 rounds WHILE STILL BEING A BATTLE RIFLE ABLE FOR SURE ONE SHOT KILL IN TORSO ANYONE ON ANY DISTANCE.
That's the point. Stop deviding damage apart from accuracy and mag capacity.