Ithaca Model 37

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

The trench gun in game uses the M16A1's M7 Bayonet, but in real life, it uses the US M1917 Enfield Bayonet. Also the reload animation is wrong (the player currently pumps the shotgun back, loads five shells into the tube mag, the pumps it forward). The player should shove one shell in the tube mag, pump the shotgun fully, then load four (seven if it is the duckbill model) more shells into the tube mag. Change the bayonet in game and change the reload animation.

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

The M37 was actually one of the few combat shotguns to be adapted to use the M7 bayonet. The M1917 bayonet was surprisingly difficult for the US military to get their hands on since most had either been destroyed or sold as surplus.

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

Originally posted by =(e)= Lemonater47:

The M37 was actually one of the few combat shotguns to be adapted to use the M7 bayonet. The M1917 bayonet was surprisingly difficult for the US military to get their hands on since most had either been destroyed or sold as surplus.

This article says that the M1917 Bayonets were still used in Vietnam, and new M1917 Bayonets were manufactured for the Vietnam War.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/4/22/combat-shotguns-of-the-vietnam-war/

[=(e)= Lemonater47]

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

Originally posted by =(e)= Lemonater47:

The M37 was actually one of the few combat shotguns to be adapted to use the M7 bayonet. The M1917 bayonet was surprisingly difficult for the US military to get their hands on since most had either been destroyed or sold as surplus.

This article says that the M1917 Bayonets were still used in Vietnam, and new M1917 Bayonets were manufactured for the Vietnam War.

https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2016/4/22/combat-shotguns-of-the-vietnam-war/

I see. Didn't realise they resorted to making them again lol.

But like I said earlier and like that article even states. The M37 had an M7 bayonet adapter made for it.

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

I just like long sword type bayonets.

[Katokevin]

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

I just like long sword type bayonets.

The best kind of bayonet is a sword on the end of your rifle!

[Clavindicus]

With the pump back, action open, you can place one shell directly into the barrel. The animation reflects this.

It is fine.

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

Originally posted by Clavindicus:

With the pump back, action open, you can place one shell directly into the barrel. The animation reflects this.

It is fine.

The Ithaca is bottom eject, so unlike other shotguns, you cannot place any shells into the shotgun when the pump is back. Even if the Ithaca was a regular shotgun, he would pump the shotgun gun back, put the shell into the chamber through the ejection port, pump it forward, then fill the tube mag with shells (the reload in game is still wrong if the Ithaca were a regular shotgun).

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

Originally posted by Katokevin:

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

I just like long sword type bayonets.

The best kind of bayonet is a sword on the end of your rifle!

Long Bayonet for M1 Garand Now!

[Clavindicus]

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

The Ithaca is bottom eject, so unlike other shotguns, you cannot place any shells into the shotgun when the pump is back. Even if the Ithaca was a regular shotgun, he would pump the shotgun gun back, put the shell into the chamber through the ejection port, pump it forward, then fill the tube mag with shells (the reload in game is still wrong if the Ithaca were a regular shotgun).

You are wrong. With the pump back, action open, the bolt is rearward. The shellcarrier is down when the action is open, but can be pushed back to its resting position. With the shellcarrier out of the way, you can load shells directly into the chamber.

It doesn't matter that it ejects out the bottom, the animation is still fine.

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

Originally posted by Clavindicus:

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

The Ithaca is bottom eject, so unlike other shotguns, you cannot place any shells into the shotgun when the pump is back. Even if the Ithaca was a regular shotgun, he would pump the shotgun gun back, put the shell into the chamber through the ejection port, pump it forward, then fill the tube mag with shells (the reload in game is still wrong if the Ithaca were a regular shotgun).

You are wrong. With the pump back, action open, the bolt is rearward. The shellcarrier is down when the action is open, but can be pushed back to its resting position. With the shellcarrier out of the way, you can load shells directly into the chamber.

It doesn't matter that it ejects out the bottom, the animation is still fine.

The current animation is still wrong. Also see how this guy reloads the Ithaca Model 37:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83dLj5PK7BA&t=

[Clavindicus]

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

The current animation is still wrong. Also see how this guy reloads the Ithaca Model 37:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83dLj5PK7BA&t=

The animation is still not wrong. Just because you're favorite youtuber does it one way, does not make all the other ways wrong/invalid.

I suggest you actually get some first hand experience with guns before you run headfirst into your wrong ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ZfHmcbb7c

[Clavindicus]

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

The character in game opens the pump, LOADS FIVE SHELLS INTO THE TUBE MAG (IT CAN ONLY HOLD FOUR), then closes the pump. THIS IS WRONG. The correct way to do it is to open the pump, load one shell, close the pump, then load four into the tube mag.

You're just assuming that the first shell isn't placed into the chamber.

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

Originally posted by Clavindicus:

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

The character in game opens the pump, LOADS FIVE SHELLS INTO THE TUBE MAG (IT CAN ONLY HOLD FOUR), then closes the pump. THIS IS WRONG. The correct way to do it is to open the pump, load one shell, close the pump, then load four into the tube mag.

You're just assuming that the first shell isn't placed into the chamber.

IMFDB says the reload is wrong: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Rising_Storm_2:_Vietnam#Ithaca_Model_37

BTW, I completed BCT in the Canadian Army.

[Clavindicus]

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

IMFDB says the reload is wrong: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Rising_Storm_2:_Vietnam#Ithaca_Model_37

BTW, I completed BCT in the Canadian Army.

Canadian-

Now I realize you don't know anything about guns by default.

Do you think for yourself and gather firsthand information or just get everything from websites?

[PFC Luu [29ID]]

Originally posted by Clavindicus:

Originally posted by Pvt. Luu 29ID:

IMFDB says the reload is wrong: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Rising_Storm_2:_Vietnam#Ithaca_Model_37

BTW, I completed BCT in the Canadian Army.

Canadian-

Now I realize you don't know anything about guns by default.

Do you think for yourself and gather firsthand information or just get everything from websites?

First of all, f*ck off with insulting my nationality (ignorant of you to make assumptions based off one's nationality). Secondly, I own some guns (Glock 17, Built My Own AR-15, Winchester Model 70). Third of all, I don't own an Ithaca 37, so I learn from websites about the Ithaca 37. I know my service rilfe (C7A2) inside and out.